If a tech whiz could edit out the private personal comments we’d love to hear it.  Thanks for whatever you can do to try and get us the releasable parts.

I talked to someone who was there and he deemed it pretty much a disaster.  She was non responsive to some of the questions and comments, arms folded and defensive in posture.  I actually doubt we would learn anything new from the presentation, rather it would confirm just about everything else we’ve heard.

I’d be haopy with Kendall’s report on what happened with as much of the PB’s comments and responses as he thinks appropriate.

#2.  A long time ago (‘83 or ‘84), I was at a Christian Legal Society convention and one of the main areas of interest was the developing home school movement.  The head of a state agency which regulated home education was there and she began her remarks:  “I feel like a lion being led to the Christians…” 

I imagine that’s how the PB must have felt.

Thanks, Kendall+, we look forward to your post and thank you for taking the trouble to look for a ‘clean’ copy.

I am simply dumbfounded that, in this day and age (the age of Sunshine Laws, open public meetings, live weblogs), that any church meeting—vestry, diocesan, national, HOB,  etc.—is held behind closed-doors.  It must stem from distrust of the masses (no pun intended), and it surely causes the distrust of our leaders.

stevejax, that was my thought about the recent meeting of traditionalist bishops creating a new alternative oversight scheme.

Sunshine laws as I understand them say decisions and votes must be public. But anyone who has ever been in politics knows the necessity and need for caucusing out of public earshot. Politics (and to a certain extent church activity) is about team strategy and there is a need for people to express themselves unguardedly at times in a way that is off the record.

RE: “But anyone who has ever been in politics knows the necessity and need for caucusing out of public earshot. Politics (and to a certain extent church activity) is about team strategy and there is a need for people to express themselves unguardedly at times in a way that is off the record.”

Yeh, but that only applies to Integrity, Via Media, Claiming the Blessing, Oasis, Progressive Episcopalians, the Executive Council, the HOB [at least the good guys] . . . you know, the folks whose agendas are Really Really Really Worthwhile and Good.

; > )

You’ve seen one monotone, hopelessly out water presentation by the PB, on public TV, you’ve seen ‘em all.  Her inability to communicate is obvious to anyone who has viewed her at such or read her remarks in multiple print media.  Naturally she would have had a defensive posture, she’s in error and was probably told so - ever so politely and gently and with Southern grace and hospitality.  But her history is that she brooks dissent with ill-grace and deliberate removal of the disagreeing -according to the Nevada reports of her tenure as bishop.  And we don’t locate any comments on her behaviours as Dean of that School of Theology she ran at her one assisting in a parish venue - but including it on her resume says mucho and eliding it after removing it says mucho grande.  So, I’m guessing it isn’t touching detail on the PB’s part that makes the revelation particularly difficult.  After all, we all saw the film of her upbraiding by Susan Russell on her return from Dar es Salaam, didn’t we?

Anyone know if someone has posted a transcript anywhere?  I’d prefer that to audio/video anyway (quicker than downloading or waiting for ‘buffering’).