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4. Of Bishops and Their Election
Bishops shall be chosen by a diocese, cluster or network in conformance with their respective procedures and consistent with the Constitution and Canons of the Province. Eligibility for bishop must include being a duly ordained male presbyter of at least 35 years of age, who possesses those qualities for a bishop which are in accordance with Scriptural principles, and who has fully embraced the Fundamental Declarations of this Province.
An electing body shall certify the election of a bishop for consent by the College of Bishops, or may certify two or three nominees from which the College of Bishops may select one for the diocese, cluster or network.
Where the originating body is "in formation," that body shall normally nominate two or three candidates, from whom the College of Bishops may select one.
Consent or, choice and consent, shall require the affirmative vote of two-thirds of the membership of the College of Bishops, which consent shall be given within 60 days and in writing.
Upon the consent or choice of a bishop-elect by the College of Bishops, the Archbishop shall take order for the consecration and/or installation of such bishop.
In the event the bishop-elect or the nominees are rejected by the College of Bishops, the College shall so inform the originating body inwriting.
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Filed under: * Anglican - Episcopal Common Cause Partnership --Proposed Formation of a new North American Province

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2. D. C. Toedt wrote:
No role for the laity or presbytery in the selection of bishops, eh? The second half of proposed Canon 7 is ironic:
That’s remarkable chutzpah, coming as it does from men who chose to disregard the identical vow they previously made concerning TEC’s doctrine, discipline, and worship. A classic example of ‘do as I say, not as I do,’ eh? (And the most egregious sin, at least for us language purists: The drafters omitted the final serial comma in “Doctrine, Discipline and Worship”.) December 4, 8:18 am | [comment link] |
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3. Jeremy Bonner wrote:
DC, Where do you get the idea of no role for the laity or presbyterate? As I read it, the laity and presbyters of the jurisdiction affected will still choose their bishop. It’s merely that at the provincial level the decision will be made by the bishop-elect’s peers. December 4, 8:26 am | [comment link] |
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4. D. C. Toedt wrote:
You’re right, Jeremy [#3], I misspoke; I meant, no role for the laity and presbytery at the provincial level. December 4, 8:32 am | [comment link] |
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5. dwstroudmd wrote:
Damn! There they go getting all ANGLICAN rather than the beyond-blessed ECUSA/TEC/GCC/EO-PAC polity. Funny how the uniqueness of the polity excuses all manner of evil but its rejection in favor of the ANGLICAN norm around the world is badgered as inadequate. Just can’t please everyone…....especially when one insists on its way. December 4, 9:37 am | [comment link] |
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6. Lawrence wrote:
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7. TomRightmyer wrote:
I see some parallels between the present situation of the Anglican Church in North America and the early days of the Episcopal Church. The best book I know on those early days is Frederick Mills’ Representatives of the Church of England congregations and clergy The new situation in moral theology created when the General After the initial energy of 1784-92 the Episcopal Church did not I expect we will see some consolidation in the Episcopal Church |
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8. TomRightmyer wrote:
D.C. Toedt in comment 2 above presents one side of the issue raised when the standards change - that a promise of conformity once made is permanent despite changes in doctrine or diiscipline or worship. A different view is that when changes are made by the General Convention clergy are similarly free to change and if led by conscience may withdraw from the spiritual authority of the church in which the promise is made “for reasons not affecting moral character.” Some believed that the ordination of women as priests and the adoption of the revised Prayer Book of 1979 were changes of doctrine and worship they could not in good conscience accept. Others believed that approval of the consecration of Bishop Robinson was a change in discipline - at least - they could not in good conscience accept. The Anglican churches accept as ordained those who have had Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic bishops lay hands on them. We say that we ordain into the one sacramental ministry of Christ. Those who have withdrawn from the authority of General Convention have not abandoned that one sacramenta ministry; they have given up the right to exercise that ministry in the Episcopal Church. December 4, 10:03 am | [comment link] |
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9. Jeremy Bonner wrote:
Tom, I think your reminder in #7 of the “dead” season of the 1790s and 1800s that preceded the vigor instituted by Hobart and Griswold is a very salutary warning for the present season. Even the mother church of colonial Anglicanism - Virginia - languished for some years without a bishop. So many people today are expecting great things and are disregarding the warnings of “growing pains” of which even people like Bob Duncan are warning. December 4, 10:11 am | [comment link] |
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10. Ross wrote:
It’s a relatively minor point, but I note that there’s no provision for “Christmas effect” years in the canons that refer to ASA. Thus, for instance, a “diocese, cluster, or network” that in a normal year hovers just under (say) 5,000 ASA could suddenly be entitled to an additional clergy and lay representative in a Christmas effect year—and lose them again the next year. Or a “diocese, network, or cluster” could get admitted to the Provincial Assembly by just barely topping 1,000 ASA in a CE year, and then drop below that the following year. That much, however, I’m sure they can sort out as the situation arises. As regards bishops, I do notice that in addition to establishing a male-only episcopate, they say: ...who possesses those qualities for a bishop which are in accordance with Scriptural principles… Does that mean that no remarried candidates need apply? December 4, 11:15 am | [comment link] |
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11. wvparson wrote:
I would predict that the greatest flaw in these Canons is in the section granting parishes unrestricted ownership of property. While one fully understand the reactive reasoning here, a similar provision in the Canons of continuing church jurisdictions has enabled a musical chairs practice, as congregations have followed clergy from one jurisdiction to another, as has just happened as the REC has taken congregations from the APA although it is in full communion with the APA. If theologically the diocese is the essential expression of the Church Catholic, material congregationalism would seem to counter such an Anglican ecclesiology. December 4, 12:09 pm | [comment link] |
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12. Jackson wrote:
Ok, I read it that it would allow one bishops for every 1000 ASA. Seems overboard -The press on this has reported 100,000 members of this province…are we going to have 100 bishops in this province? Makes the TEC look like an optimized organization. I remember people unhappy about the presiding bishop of TEC heading up 4,000 people in Nevada and that being looked down upon by reasserters. Seems like we are making the same mistake. We don’t need more priests trying to become bishops….we need more priests building churches. December 4, 12:35 pm | [comment link] |
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13. Irenaeus wrote:
The greatest flaw in these Canons is in the section granting parishes unrestricted ownership of property —-WVParson [#11] On the contrary, unrestricted parish ownership is a great virtue. It provides an additional safeguard against heresy and bureaucratic self-aggrandizement. The safeguard will be important even though rarely used. Its existence will deter the sort of top-down drift towards revisionism that occurred in mainline churches over the past century. The “musical chairs” of which WVParson complains [#11] reflects a transition problem that will fade as ties strengthen within the new province. December 4, 12:45 pm | [comment link] |
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14. Irenaeus wrote:
Jackson [#12]: I agree that “we need more priests building churches.” The 1000-ASA-per-bishop figure looks like a minimum (evidently designed to avoid an ECUSA-style proliferation of micro-dioceses) rather than a norm. PS: By way of comparison, the U.S. Constitution specifies that “the Number of [U.S.] Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand.” If we used that as a norm rather than a minimum, the U.S. House of Representative would have 10,200 members instead of just 435. December 4, 12:55 pm | [comment link] |
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15. The_Archer_of_the_Forest wrote:
So looking at the Canons and Constitution, does each constituent group (e.g. FIFNA, REC, AMiA, etc) keep its own identity? The wording of “diocese, cluster, or network” seems to suggest that each entity would elect its own bishops and keep its own councils, so that they may at any time withdraw? This seems to me to be a confederation of separate entities and not some cohesive new whole Province. December 4, 1:13 pm | [comment link] |
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16. recchip wrote:
15-Archer. I have read the canons and constitution over several times. As far as I can tell, EACH diocese under a Bishop which has a ASA of at least 1000 is a Diocese of the new Province. Also, groupings of dioceses can band together in “sub-provincial” bodies (i.e. the dioceses of the REC will “band together” as the REC which is a “sub provincial body”). So, from the REC, you would have three dioceses which qualify (North East and Midatlantic, Mid America, and Southeast-each under a bishop and each has an ASA of over 1000) and three (Missionary Diocese of the Central States, Diocese of Eastern Canada, and Diocese of Western Canada and Alaska (and Cuba-each under a bishop but with ASA under 1000 although MDCS could get close soon!!). From the FACA grouping, I think that the Missionary Episcopal Church, the APA and the ACA would have enough for at least one “diocese.” December 4, 9:57 pm | [comment link] |
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An all-male episcopate (Article 4) but a careful limitation of the qualities necessary for a presbyter to purely confessional ones (Article 9). Most interesting. Also noteworthy that there’s no role for standing committees in certifying episcopal elections.
Congregational ownership of property (Article 5). Evidently a case of once-bitten, twice shy.
Wonder what reliance on the 1662 BCP (Article 6) means for those parishes that now use the 1979 book.
Catholic and Reformed
December 4, 8:10 am | [comment link]