A large church in Virginia leaving…this sure sounds familiar.

Boy…that did not take long.
Intercessor

Once again one congregation becomes 2 congregations.  How sad! I hope the leadership does not abandon the 30% who did not see fit to leave.

#3.  My only personal experience is being sued by one of the 1.6% that decided not to remain with the congregation that had nurtured her through the various vicissitudes of her life for several years.  Do you have personal knowledge of congregations that have “abandoned” people who have not gone with the majority of their fellow parishioners who wished to keep the faith they had received?

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the exodus from the ELCA eventually exceeds that from TEC, both in raw numbers and in the percentage of people who leave in protest.  Lutherans are generally less inclined to view the original Reformation with mixed feelings than we Anglicans are, so it wouldn’t be surprisingly if they saw the New Reformation as similarly justified.

As I keep saying, the New Reformation is by no means reserved for Anglicanism alone.  I fully expect it to hit all the so-called “mainline” denominations, although they will doubtless be influenced by it to different degrees and in different ways.

Let goods and kindred go.

David Handy+

This will probably accelerate in the months to come.  Community Church of Joy in Arizona held their second vote this weekend (takes two votes to go) and they are now officially out.  It’s easier to leave than you folks.  As long as we head to another Lutheran denomination, we need no one’s permission.  LCMC - Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ was setup precisely for this time in our church; a lifeboat for quick exit.  Lutheran CORE will no doubt become the long term solution, but some need to leave now, particularly if they have an African presence in their congregation.  That also sounds familiar doesn’t it?

It’s a laudable thing for Christians to depart a jurisdiction when that jurisdiction departs from the clear teaching of Scripture and the articulated of the Judaeo-Christian witness from the beginning. I hope the ELCA, like TEC, will become an illustration of what will befall a denomination when it allows poor leaders to get into the driver’s seat.

Thanks, Brian (#6).  I’m not at all surprised that huge Community Church of Joy has bolted quickly.  Of course, there are plenty of critics who’d say that Kallestad’s Willow Creek style megachurch was never really Lutheran in the first place (wink)!  More importantly, perhaps, it’s big enough that it functions like a mini-denomination all by itself.  I mean how big is it nowadays, 10K in attendance on weekends or something?

David Handy+

Well, perhaps if all the liberal ELCA-ers and the liberal Tec-ers who remain get together (communion you know!) they can foster rump dioceses in every state in the union and apply the Denis Canon to the those who have left!  Look at the bright side - all those GLBTs who have been waiting for a more substantial presence to join than the ECUSA/TEC/GCC/EO-PAC now have options!!!!  Of course, this will split the GLBT resources if the ECLA-TEc-ers don’t join soon, and 1-3% of the population at max isn’t a lot to split up and remain solvent when your givers have gone.

This is the second one in Roanoke.  Philip Bottomley at St Peter and Paul’s in the city, once under Bolivia, now under Guernsey, is the other.  This is a combo Lutheran-Anglican group.