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While Anglican leaders say they appreciate the gracious tone of the offer, they believe it is a suspect use of a canon written for clergy who want to renounce their ordination. Few responded to the first offer that the Episcopal diocese made last month.
"It's unfortunate that we're in this situation, but it is asking us to renounce our vows, which we cannot do," said the Rev. Mary Hays, canon to the ordinary for the Anglican diocese.
"They're interpreting the canon in a way that it's not been interpreted before. We're all in a tough place, but our clergy have not abandoned their ordination vows."
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Filed under: * Anglican - Episcopal Anglican Provinces Southern Cone Episcopal Church (TEC) TEC Conflicts TEC Conflicts: Pittsburgh

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2. Dan Crawford wrote:
I can’t begin to tell one and all how grateful I am that I have been “released”, but then I hadn’t been aware I had been held captive. Having retired from the Corporation several months ago, need I inform the Registrar of Recognized Ordinations that I have also been “released”? The gracious of an act done on my behalf without my consent is beyond words and even comprehension. November 4, 8:39 am | [comment link] |
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3. dwstroudmd wrote:
It was inevitable that canons should be subject to the same deconstruction as the Scripture and the liturgy. Words are merely malleable symbols devoid of content or meaning so as to allow conversation; canons are words; ergo, they mean what “interpreters” want them to mean at any given moment. Every action of the ECUSA/TEC and its menials has been to undermine meaning in the quest for power. Reality is not within their purview. It is an epistemological maelstrom from which recovery is rendered impossible. November 4, 9:45 am | [comment link] |
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4. Brian of Maryland wrote:
The TES (the Episcopal Sect) blight on the Body of Christ continues. My annoyance at that dying sect and the harm they keep visiting onto the larger community of Christians almost makes me want to drive up to Pittsburgh and slap a few faces. Stop it!!!! You are an embarrassment to the rest of us and a public menace to reaching the Lost. November 4, 11:32 am | [comment link] |
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5. desertpadre wrote:
Welcome to the club, folks! We “deposed” clergy from the former diocese of San Joaquin have not suffered at all, being recognized still by the Christian parts of the Anglican Communion as being still clergy. Indeed most parts of TES still regard us as being in good standing—I was invited to concelebrate, and did, and to distribute the bread in a TES church last summer. |
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6. David Wilson wrote:
“On Saturday [Nov 7} the Anglican diocese will vote on a proposal to affiliate solely with the Anglican Church in North America, while Archbishop Duncan would also remain a bishop of the Southern Cone”. |
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7. David Wilson wrote:
Just received my letter signed by TEC Bishop Kenneth Price and a Statement of Renunciation where I am listed with 102 of my closest friends signed Bp Price aand attested to by former TEC colleagues Jeff Murph and Nano Chalfont-Walker. I was kinda hoping Jim Simons would have signed mine. They are some great names on that list- Stephen Noll, Leslie Farifield, John Guest, John Leggett, Mary and Whis Hays, Geoff Chapman, etc. Interestingly listed as priests are one who in July was promoted to greater glory, the late David McKenzie+ and one who was consecreated as a bishop in the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church, Bill Ilgenfritz. November 4, 6:20 pm | [comment link] |
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8. Pageantmaster wrote:
#7 David Wilson Shame on you Rump TEC Pittsburgh - you really are the pits. November 4, 6:55 pm | [comment link] |
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9. Pageantmaster wrote:
What are they going to dig him up to deliver Price’s letter? |
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10. Pageantmaster wrote:
#7 David Wilson - may I ask a question please? Would it be possible for you to either post the text of the letter from Bishop Price and “statement of renunciation” you mention in a comment here or refer me to where it is on another website. ‘Wildfire’ mentions the issue of whether what you have received tracks the language of the Title III.9.8 canon here: Any help you can give English people like me would be greatly appreciated in our efforts to understand TEC polity. More generally, I am also wondering how it is claimed that the late David McKenzie managed to renounce his orders in writing. Have Bishop Price and the standing committee been playing with ouija boards? I am really shocked. I know that in the middle ages a deceased pope was disinterred for the purposes of excommunication, but in modern America! Just when you thought TEC could not stoop any lower. November 4, 7:37 pm | [comment link] |
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11. David Wilson wrote:
#10 |
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12. David Wilson wrote:
link again |
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13. David Wilson wrote:
http://www.episcopalpgh.org/wp-content/uploads/file/Documents/CanonIII_9_8 letter100509.pdf November 4, 9:19 pm | [comment link] |
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14. Jackie wrote:
Let’s try this. Here’s a hyperlink to the pdf. November 4, 11:22 pm | [comment link] |
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16. Pageantmaster wrote:
Thanks David - I see one can cut and paste your link to the Standing Committee letter of 5 October into the browser. I look forward to seeing the scans of Bishop Price’s signed letter and the Statement of Renunciation when it has been scanned and posted. |
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I talk to many people who simply cannot understand how the leadership of the EC and these newly formed shadow dioceses can behave in this way and still call themselves “Christians”.
If a divorce is unavoidable, then let it be as amicable as possible. The World is watching…and our witness matters.
November 4, 8:27 am | [comment link]