The GS meeting in Singapore will have this news, now. It was not my understanding that the Bishops vote would be revealed until the final day…does anyone have a different understanding? It would be better if the wider world had the news when it comes.

Actually, it sounds like +Bruno is tipping the Bishops’ hand by indicating that only a few more are needed. Unless I misunderstand his comment. I wasn’t aware he was supposed to be this forthcoming. It does make a nice quote: “I look forward to the final few consents to come in from the bishops in the next few days, and I give thanks for the fact that we as a church have taken a bold step for just action.”

The Standing Committees have sufficiently compromised the PB and Bonnie Anderson’s prior fatuous letter about what GC2009 did or did not do/mean/intend.  Do let the bishops try to hold up their end and make it a fait di accompli rather than more Bruno-esque “doesn’t happen in my diocese” fudge.

Not even the ABC can ignore this.  But he will find a way to “bless” it and all the other body graces he presupposes.

Clarity a comin’!

Remember folks, B030 isn’t overturned until it is overturned.

I really don’t see the big deal here.  The outcome is a forgone conclusion and has been from the start.  The usual huffing and puffing from the usual quarters notwithstanding, there will be no significant consequences over this. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.  I can not see this generating a new wave of defections.  Seriously.  Anyone who was ever going to leave TEO for any reason whatsoever has already done so.  Those still in it have nailed their flag to the masthead and are determined to go down with the ship.  Its not something that I or anyone else here is happy about.  But that’s the way it is.

Sometimes I get the feeling that there are a lot of people on this forum who haven’t figured this out.  So I guess it needs to be said bluntly.  The war for the soul of the Episcopal Church is over and the Christians lost.  What people choose to do with that fact is up to them.  But it is a fact.

#5, Christians never lose.

Re #6

#5, Christians never lose.

Then why is Hagia Sophia a mosque/museum?

Tuesday, 29 May 1453: The worst date in the history of Christendom.

I agree. Christians DO lose. But I also agree God will redeem the loss. That is really the hardest part - it is really hard to see God at work after a loss. That’s where faith kicks in as well as the support of the larger Body of Christ.

NO. 2 - another interpretation is that Bishop Bruno is worried that there will not be sufficient consents from the Bishops and he is trying to stampede them into accepting what he wants them to perceive as inevitable.

Sometimes I get the feeling that there are a lot of people on this forum who want to win the battle for the soul of the Episcopal Church,  but don’t care if they lose the war for Christ-likeness.  What people choose to do with that fact is up to them.  But it is a fact.

BTW:  Does anyone know whether it’s possible to find out right now how each diocese has voted?
If 61 standing committees have consented,
who are they?

C’mon #7.  Think harder. 
Luke 9:25.

Dr. Seitz,
In the other LA election, the Bishop’s consent has already been revealed, so it is clearly not a matter of policy to hold off, and elections in several other dioceses have been confirmed before the last day of the process.  I am not aware of any canonical requirement for 815 to reveal anything before the last day of the process, however.  So, I guess they can hold back on information if they want to.  In the case of Forrester, most bishops seemed to want people to know how they voted, in this case, they seem to be withholding that info in most cases- even those we are almost certain would vote one way or the other don’t seem to be saying much.
Maybe someone could interest Frank Lockwood in doing a phone survey, but I think this one is a forgone conclusion.

I am heart sick at this, but I should not be surprised. Where, please someone inform me, can I now or latter read a list of which Standing Committees and which Bishops voted to approve/consent?

In most of what is happening ... the Episcopal Church is certainly winning ... for Christ.

Robert,
Is that sea salt or kosher salt you are rubbing in our wounds?

Winning???

Louie Crew lists 60 diocesan bishops that voted for D025. What is the magic number for bishops? If a see is vacant, how does that affect the vote?