And whose wayward and willful revisionist behavior/agenda damaged/broke those relationships in the first place?

I’m sure you can count on Bishop Salmon to know whose agenda broke the relationship.

Is he the new dean or is he the interim dean?

Bishop Salmon is a fantastic leader—as witness the Diocese of South Carolina—but I am surprised as he is not AngloCatholic and I had thought that Nashotah House was AngloCatholic.

I’m a bit surprised also, BUT, it will keep him out of KJS’s way. She hasn’t attacked the seminaries as of yet, and one cannot have +Salmon running around while she moves on +Lawrence..
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How many real AngloCatholics can there remain in TEC at this point.  No one who ordains women can seriously be called AngloCatholic.

Nashotah allows females to attend for degrees. If a TEC female seminarian were ordained deacon by her sponsoring diocese, I don’t know if she would be allowed to serve as a deacon at Mass.

Nor do I know whether they allow preistesses to preside at Mass.

Seminarians and professors wear cassocks to classes.

They use the 1979 BCP, Rite 2 and sometimes Rite 1. I don’t know if they use the 28, or other Anglican worship resources. They have devotions to the BVM.

I’ve never seen a service there that wasn’t done well. Though some of the seminarians have trouble with liturgical singing, that doesn’t count.

I served with Bishop Salmon on the TEC/REC-APA dialogue in 2002-03 and have great respect for him.

Ralph #8, just an FYI - As it stands now, women deacons are allowed to serve as deacons at the Mass, but women priests are not allowed to celebrate.

So…an is aim is to build better relationships with progressive bishops?

Friends,

A few clarifications:

#10.  Fr. Townsend is correct.  Women deacons serve at the Mass.  But, as a matter of practice (not policy as such), women priests are not celebrants.  There is a range of opinion among faculty and students on this question, but, the chosen practice is out of respect for and deference to the conscience of those who disapprove.  It is not a point of contention.

#8.  Cassocks are worn outside the chapel as a matter of personal preference.  Most professors don’t, in fact, wear cassocks; perhaps a third to half of the students do—the percentage seems to rise when the temperatures drop.  It’s a non-issue.  Rite 1 and 2 are used about equally.

#5 and #6 Note that Bishop Salmon’s association with Nashotah House is quite long-standing, a Trustee since 1993 and Chair of the Board since 1996.  So there can be no real question of fit. 

#4. I’m not quite sure what you are getting at, but perhaps it is just as well.

#3. The title is ‘Dean and President’ not ‘interim,’ but, as the article makes clear, the search for long-term leadership of the Seminary begins rather soon.

#2 and #1.  We are not interested in participating a culture of blaming, only in being faithful to Christ, the gospel, and proclaiming and living the “faith once delivered,” “that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all,” as it were.  And we are interested in sharing friendship and partnership with all whom we can thus serve, both within and outside of The Episcopal Church.  That was always Dean Munday’s vision for Nashotah House, and Bishop Salmon will surely continue in the same vein.

Garwood Anderson
Associate Dean for Academic Affairs
Nashotah House

RE: “Note that Bishop Salmon’s association with Nashotah House is quite long-standing, a Trustee since 1993 and Chair of the Board since 1996.  So there can be no real question of fit.”

An interesting assertion.  But plenty of people can be on boards of organizations and not be a fit for the highest leadership of those organizations.

Nevertheless I merely expressed surprise that he’s not an AngloCatholic and that—in theory—Nashotah House is AngloCatholic. 

It’s for AngloCatholics to determine if he is or is not “a fit” from that perspective.  Not really for me to say as I don’t know.

And sure isn’t a “progressive”.  I wonder how many of the commenters know him or his history? I am sitting here comtemplating these comments and thinking of the last three Bishops of SC: Bp. Allison, Bp. Salmon and Bp. Lawerence.  There are no more Godly or orthodox men on earth than that trio!

Lest there be doubt, I think Bp Salmon is a superb choice, and I completely affirm the decision that The House has made.

There are some self-designated “Anglo-Catholics” out in the TEC world who use all the trappings of high ceremonial, the Anglican Missal, and what-not, but whose theology is ultra-liberal. There’s none of that going on at NH.

I’m sure that Fr Klukas can give Bp Salmon pointers on how to lead Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament.

He has big shoes to fill.

Dean Munday has been instrumental in drawing Anglo-Catholics, Evangelicals and others together, helping them to see what they have in common (the orthodox ones, that is).

Even when I have disagreed with him (essentially over peripherals) I found he was always an erudite and gifted theologian. Anglicanism needed Dean Munday at a critical time. I am sure his successor will do as well.

“#2 and #1.  We are not interested in participating a culture of blaming, only in being faithful to Christ, the gospel, and proclaiming and living the “faith once delivered,” “that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all,” as it were.”

Mending relationships is an admirable goal.  As we know, the Ten Commandments are all about relationships as is the Gospel.

But, if mending relationships means compromising one’s belief in “...the Faith once delivered…” and not taking a strong and public stand in defense of that Faith and against the revisionist ‘cant’ (“cant” as used here means “talk”) and actions that are directly opposed to key elements of that Faith, then I stand by what I said in comment #1.

I appreciate what Dr. Garwood wrote [#11].  I have served with many Nashotah alumni and one is my spiritual director [for +15 years].  As #14 wrote, Dr. Klukas can help the Bp with the ceremonial [if needed].  The tradition of “the House” will carry on, because like the decades of incense in the Chapel, “it is part of the place”.

Many thanks to Dr. Anderson for his clarifications. Bishop Salmon served well and faithfully in this same capacity during the transition period after the departure of Dean Gary Kriss. As a result, The House completed a successful search process that resulted in hiring Dean Munday who served with distinction for 10 years. Dr. Garwood, and the outstanding faculty that he directs, stand as testimony to Dean Munday’s fine work. Nashotah House remains as one of perhaps three Anglo Catholic seminaries in North American that is committed to biblical theology, evangelical orthodoxy and the conservative way of life. Its mission is to train individuals for ordination and parish ministry using the classic Benedictine model in the midst of our post-modern culture. This mission could be better supported and preserved if folks did not send so much time trying to parse words, read between the lines, ferret out secret agendas, argue about relatively minor, when compared to the real assault on the Church from within, differences in ecclesiology that only serve to further divide and weaken the Orthodox body of the faithful - and to what end? What purpose is served? None.

Bishop Salmon will once again lead The House through a transition period, having graciously taken on a thankless task. A new Dean and President will be installed and the seminary will continue to teach the enduring truth of the one holy catholic and apostolic faith, as it has since 1842. That is the only “agenda” and it is right out in the open for everyone to see and support.