This is an excellent article, and rather unprecedented, because it acurrately sets out conservative or orthodox views.  Great to see Rev. Houlding of Forward-in-Faith and Canon Sugden of Anglican Mainstream getting a fair hearing in the press.  For too long the liberals have been winning the press battle, pretty much by default.

I’m good with it

May they get what they wish for - the liberals, I mean.  You know a Jefferts-Schori equivalent who unveils what is hidden and manifests obsfuscatory language whilst burning and sacking the Anglican Communion rather than talking it to death and doing the deeds that assure its death.  The incumbent has had the obsfuscatory language and the deeds so well together that the liberal agenda has been accomplished and people act surprised.

I hope they don’t. The CofE is not in the same place that the Canadian and American Churches are in. If they get a good man like +Chartres in, the tide may yet be held back (if not turn) for England.

This certainly comes as no surprise, does it?  What in heaven’s name did they expect?  With the likes of ++Morgan on the Commission, it’s a foregone conclusion that a flaming liberal will be chosen.  At least they weren’t able to elect Mrs Jefferts Schori to this travesty of justice! 

They’re perfectly right in squawking!

too bad some of the orthodox swam the tibor they would have a chance to change the course of the church.

Just to clarify, ++Morgan does not have a vote, but of course he can and will contribute to discussions.  The travesty is that he was chosen as the representative foreign Primate - even though his views are a long way out of step with those of most other Primates.

But I am glad the orthodox in England are talking to the press and fighting back.  If they are to go down, let it be fighting.  And who knows what the Lord may accomplish through a handful of people who are prepared to take a sword and a trumpet in each hand?

Michael A,
I think the point cannot be made too strongly that Morgan represents only the so called “Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion” which is in reality only the uber-liberal steering committee of the Briitsh non-profit corporation that funds the ACO- that is all the legal standing it has.  That it in some way, shape or form represents the Anglican Communion is, as you know well, an utter fiction.
Perhaps the GS can force the ACC to remove the racially motivated “regional voting” (which gives 60 million Anglicans 1 or 2 representatives, and the 10 million westerners elect the rest) and restore democracy to what has become an oligarchy.  Had they stayed with the same rules as 15 years ago, the GS would completely dominate ACC, based on the numbers, but with regional voting, and RW’s ability to put liberals from NZ and such places on at will, the will of the majority, and orthodox Christianity, have been overthrown on the ACC and its so called Standing Committee.
Meanwhile, the Anglican Communion will survive the next ABoC, the only question is, whether he and CoE will be part of it in 10 years, or whether this Nominating Committee will kneel before the whims of Cameron and KJS, and appoint some heretic to the see of Canterbury.  In which case, Canterbury can start paying homage to 815 in the new Episcopal revisionist federation.

Michael, I believe Morgan does have a vote:
“Voting members of the panel are Dr Morgan; six members of the General Synod, the Church’s national assembly; six lay and clergy representatives of the Canterbury diocese - including the Bishop of Dover; and two senior bishops - Bishop Perham and the Rt Rev James Newcome, the Bishop of Carlisle, who is conservative.

Lord Luce, a former minister, was appointed by David Cameron as the CNC’s chairman, and also has a vote. “

One of the changes made this time around is that the Standing Committee rep DOES get a vote- at least it has been so stated in several articles.

I do take exception to the article referring to “liberal Anglo Catholic”- when what they mean is affirming catholic- which is to say, those who have abandoned the catholic elements of the faith, but like the ceremony and vestments.  Graham James is not an Anglo Catholic- his doctrinal stances on marriage and holy orders being diametrically opposed to orthodox teaching.

If the next Archbishop of Canterbury is a revisionist who proceeds to attempt to consolidate revisionist gains and who also seeks to promote revisionism within England or the other churches of the Anglican Communion, then its ‘all over’ for the Anglican Communion as we know it and knew it.

It will most likely bring about the coalesence of those Anglicans who continue to follow “...the faith once given….” into a new grouping in which the Archbishop of Canterbury is merely the primate of a national chuech.

#11
Have you been saving that email for 20 years?

Reply to #12.

I am just stating the obvious.

Unfortunately, those of us who are now faced with this situation got into this situation by being polite and avoiding opportunities to ‘tell it like it is/was’ over the past 40 to 50 years (except for a few brave voices).

We sat back, neglected our responsibilities and ‘let things happen’ when we should have been outspoken and insistent.

too bad some of the orthodox swam the tibor they would have a chance to change the course of the church.

Magnolia—I think they think they did.

Very pleased that the fixed selection panel is getting notice in the media.

What a change from several years ago!  Not only would most of us not even known who was liberal and who was conservative, who believed one Gospel and who the other—but even had we had known there would have been no way to get the news out to the broader Anglican Communion.

That feels good.

Better that the membership and their preferences are out in the open; at least we now know where we stand.

tjmcmahon at #9, thanks for that. I wasn’t aware of it - my last information is several months old. Anyway, that just drives home Sarah’s point, that now we are getting information. Scrutiny has an amazing effect on liberals and fence-sitters…

And of course I agree very much with your point at #8.

no. 14 i am sure you are right! it just breaks my heart that they left.

no. 10 i totally agree, i’m an anglo catholic and have nothing in common with that person.

It’s great that that world that reads this British paper is made aware of this situation.
And yet, will it bring about any real change? Is there a way for this to bring about real change?