What a typically incoherent and irrational letter from the layman—boy, our education system is just a failure, judging by attempts to string together rhetoric from revisionists. He doesn’t even get the reason for departure right, plus he seems to be entirely unaware of the words of Jesus, which I suppose is understandable, considering his faith.

And what a fantastic letter from Bishop Allison—my goodness he’s great!

Wow!

“The bible has something minimal to say about homosexuality”, yeah it sure does!

“And a whole epistle is supportive of slavery”. 

Sounds like a few folks in DSC didn’t go to all the bible study classes.

It’s too bad that people resort to sophistry to make a point, because the point thus made is usually a bad one. No one but fundamentalists and others who fail to grasp the sacramental principle ever disputed the blessing of inanimate objects. And there was a lot more at issue in the Civil War/War between the States than just slavery, major evil though it was. Informed opinions are always appreciated on both sides of a debate.

As much as I am against clericalism, these two letters illustrate in the polarity of their understandings the dire need of the laity:
CATECHESIS, CATECHESIS, and more CATECHESIS. And shame on whoever the clergy was that let this man believe this confused mess of secular aphorisms.

Robert Gagnon—Slavery, Homosexuality, and the Bible: A Response

http://www.robgagnon.net/articles/homoKrehbielResponse.pdf

is one resource of which to be aware.

On Mr Cheuvront’s facebook page we find the following Inspirational People: Jesus, Buddha, Prophet Mohamed, Mahatma Ghandi, and Marcus Borg.

If you truly find all of those people inspirational, your head must be an incredible self-contradictory muddle. If, on the other hand, you find a favourite selection of what they said and did inspirational, you have merely created your own faith, 21st century Western supermarket style; absolutely fine if froth floats your boat, but please refrain from doing so under the banner of Jesus Christ. You do not know him, and there’s every chance he never knew you, either.

Marcus Borg only belongs in this list if you attend a TEC church. Most people have never heard of him.

In Nov. 2006 when I wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury to tell him that the Anglican Theological Review (ATR) was considering my article about how TEC had flubbed science in “To Set Our Hope on Christ,”  I also told him that I almost walked away because of Borg’s article.  We had studied it at VTS, and the pastor in the church that I was in at that time then mentioned that he was going to hear Borg speak.  I was actually glad to hear that the pastor had not heard about Borg’s apostate article.  After giving the ABC a description of how Borg had decided that Jesus was just like a guru or any other spirit people, who interacted with their perceptions of God, the ABC wrote to me to encourage me to have my article published.  Since he is now a lame duck, I can reveal the central paragraph about Borg from that letter.  Here is the whole letter:

“Many thanks for your letter. I hope the ATR will print your piece. It’s so difficult these days actually to have a serious disagreement—I mean that everyone assumes that if you disagree you hate them, you have an agenda, you are incapable of having a respectful relationship with them, etc.

“Please go on staying in the Episcopal Church as long as you can; it would be a disater if it were abandoned to the sort of non-theology you describe as coming from Marcus Borg.  I’m dismayed by the popularity he has gained in some Episcopalian circles.

“Every good wish for the coming season when we celebrate not the birth of a spiritual but dead human being, but the coming in flesh of the Eternal Word who has ‘wonderfully recreated’ us in his image by the cross and resurrection.”

It is indeed only TEC where Borg would belongs in that list.