Insightful look into the kind of evangelical witness +Welby has.  Also a generous portrait of HTB by an outsider.  Alpha is essentially Wesley’s class meeting rediscovered.  However, unlike Wesley, HTB has been able to keep its apostolic movement within the ancient structures of the church - and even transplant into Roman and Eastern Christendom.  HTB is more like a tribe than a church.  Indeed, the most influential tribe in Christendom with the greatest conveneing power in global Christianity.  I am grateful that the Welby’s will have HTB in their own backyard as they take on this enormous challenge. 

I am still stunned by this development, even though I knew it was a strong possbility.

I know that the +Welby appointment has much greater pertinence for those in Britain but, as an American Anglican, I am feeling cautiously hopeful about the gifts that Archbishop Welby could offer Christendom and the world. He seems to be a thoughtful, right-of-center moderate who has some deep life and job experiences to bring to the office and his ministry. It sounds as if the C of E is very willing to give him a chance; I just hope that the Communion is.

I fully agree, Teatime.

Messages for the Anglican Communion:

Pew Potatoes: let’s give him 8 or 12 years before we judge him.
The rest of this post is theological frippery which you’re much too sensible for.

Insiders: Let’s replace him in 8 or 12 years with someone just like him.

He needs to declare unequivocally where he stands on several important matters which concern the entire Communion and in fact the rest of Christianity, and we all know very well what they are. 

It’s vitally important that he reconsider his pledge to reexamine his position with regard to homosexuality and the Church, and his position on women bishops…...both of which are potentially deadly for the Church and the Communion.

“No one expects a war between High and Low, Anglo-Catholics and Bible-bashers. They expect an archbishop who will speak bravely to England, and the wider world, in clear English, about the claims that Jesus makes on the life of society and on each human being.”

No argument with that.

“The Anglican Communion, at whose head Dr Welby will find himself, is ungovernable.  If he does not recognise this at once, and find a way of stepping aside from executive responsibility over it, he will be dragged down by its squabbles, just like poor Dr Rowan Williams.”

No, sorry, this is very wrong on both counts.  Firstly, the Anglican Communion is governable - it is just not governable by a relativist like Rowan Williams. 

And secondly, Rowan Williams was not “dragged down by squabbles”.  He was dragged down by his own failure to take a clear and unequivocal stand for orthodox Christianity.  As a result, he lost the confidence of the orthodox (rightly so) and ironically the extreme liberals also turned on him because he didn’t give them exactly what they wanted. 

The question is whether +Welby will do the same when he is ABC.  There is nothing in this article that gives a clear direction as to whether he will or not.  The fact that he went to HTB and calls himself an evangelical, and is a very sincere and godly man, will not be enough.  Unless he is prepared to take a strong stand for scriptural truth and be prepared to hold to it even when that is not popular, he will end up exactly the same as Rowan Williams, but take less long to get there.

#7: “The fact that he went to HTB and calls himself an evangelical, and is a very sincere and godly man, will not be enough.”

True enough. James Jones of Liverpool, Welby’s old “boss”, is from a similar stable but is hardly an evangelical now. I think it began when he switched his central interest from the Cross to ‘Green Theology’.
Relativism is always a danger. It looks like Welkby’s got a good grasp of modern business ethics, which is good, but that’s not Christology.

A different view of the new archbishop from a clergyman of the Church of England:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/petermullen/100188475/a-new-archbishop-but-no-change-at-canterbury-justin-welby-is-just-another-left-wing-establishment-bureaucrat/

There have been times when I thought that what is needed on the Throne of St Augustine is at heart a simple parish priest who is truly a man of God, and who cares about His people.  A man who speaks the Truth plainly and without reservation, and who is not hesitant to stand up for the Truth as found in Holy Scripture.  I would like to be able to say that +Welby is such a man, but at this point, I don’t know enough about him to say one way or another.

Well spotted, Dr Tighe. 

On a somewhat different tack but still asking searching questions, here is one from another clergyman:  http://cranmercurate.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/orthodox-primates-duty-to-quiz-dr-welby_11.html

#s 9 and 11—did you read the aforementioned Telegraph article? It’s an opinion piece that oozes bile and bitterness from the word go and doesn’t make any logical or compelling arguments, besides. If one uses that piece to form an opinion of +Welby, then, sorry, but they must have few (if any) objective standards.

Teatime2, Dr Tighe didn’t comment on whether he agreed with all of Rev Mullen’s comments, or some of them, or none of them.  Neither did I. 

The particular interest of the Telegraph piece is that it is by an English clergyman, and a lot of its comments relate to the political situation in England - unavoidable when discussing the office of Archbishop in an established church, but more of interest to members of the CofE than to us foreigners. 

In turn, the link that I posted has virtually nothing to say about Rev. Mullen’s issues, nor is it necessarily critical of +Welby.  But it is also another piece by an English clergyman.