What, no quote from Kendall?  Well, way to go Bishop Stanton!

YBIC,
Phil Snyder

Shall we praise the bishop? Or should we ask, “What are you going to DO, or are you just going to wring your hands, wrinkle your brow, and sweat slightly?”

  My computer would not open up the full text, I don’t know why, so I don’t know wha else he said. I do know that I am getting sick and tired of listening to the conservative bishops talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. Larry

Larry, you got the whole quote.

Let’s have another Camp Allen meeting and jaw, jaw, jaw. Or let’s throw our support to ABp Duncan and the Common Cause who seem to be the only ones moving.

Larry and robroy,

A duck seems very peaceful on top of the water.  Very few see the frantic pace of the legs below the water.  While I have no knowledge of things happening below the surface and I do not pretend to have any knowledge, I trust Bishop Stanton and his staff.  There is a word that Americans need to learn over and over again, Patience.  We have none and we badly need to develop some.

YBIC,
Phil Snyder

Phil, the duck analogy only works here if something really is going on underneath the water. I’d like to think so, but I’ve been disappointed before.

Its time to stop whining and start dealing with the reality of the situation as it exists.  TEC is an apostate church and things are NOT going to get better.  Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.  Once you come to terms with that then the question is not whether to stay and fight or go, but rather simply “where do I go?”

If you are essentially Protestant there are a ton of churches that will meet your spiritual needs.  If you like the Anglican flavor any of the African Churches would probably suit you well.  If you see yourself as catholic and seek “The Church” and not “a church” then your choices become more limited.  The Continuing churches are so fractured and small they can not IMO reasonably lay claim to the Catholicity spoken of in the Creed.  The African churches are essentially evengelical and fundamentalist.  That is to say they may pay lip service to catholicity, but they are at their core Protestant.  This logically leaves one with two choices… Rome or Orthodoxy.  Obviously I have a preference but either would be an immeasurable improvement over TEC.

#4: But we HAVE been patient! Years and years. When is enough too much?  Larry

Re: #8
Amen.  It is spiritually dangerous to remain in a constant state of battle with those who can not be converted.  Scripture says that when you have delivered the Gospel, if the people there will not receive it then you are to leave and shake the dust from your sandals in doing so.  It says nothing about sticking around for years trying to convert the spiritual equivalent to rocks.

I therefor will repeat the message for all of my brothers and sisters in the Episcopal Church.  This battle is over.  You have done all that can be done.  It is time now for the last act, by which example perhaps some others may yet be saved.  Leave.  And I encourage you to do so in a public albeit dignified manner.  Pick a church as suggested above and go there.  But GET OUT of TEC!

For what it’s worth, I agree with CStan.  If I, whether priest or lay person, came the point where I could not longer abide by what was happening (in whatever organization I was associated) and knew that my protestations would continually fall on deaf ears, then I would simply and quietly leave.

There is much to be said for advocating strenuously for one’s cause and for remaining in the fray, but there comes a point when remaining does one more harm than good. 

So, simply go to a different church!