Notable and Quotable

Posted by Kendall Harmon

A headline last Sunday about a Muslim man and an Orthodox Jewish woman who are partners in two Dunkin’ Donuts stores described their religions incorrectly. The two faiths worship the same God — not different ones.

--From the New York Times "Corrections" section on November 25th; the original article to which it refers is here.

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Posted November 27, 2007 at 7:24 am [Printer Friendly] [Print w/ comments]

1. Ed the Roman wrote:

A reminder of Mark Shea’s recommendation to deduct fifty IQ points from mainstream reporters when discussing religion.

November 27, 8:42 am | [comment link]
2. Abu Daoud wrote:

An Orthodox Jew would generally say that Muslims do not worship their God. A traditional Sunni Muslim would say that a Jew might indeed worship Allah, though incorrectly, and salvation is probably impossible for the Jew.

November 27, 11:14 am | [comment link]
3. ann r wrote:

Allah, so I have heard, is derived from the ancient worship of the moon god, and is capricious.  The God of the Jews and Christians delights in keeping his promises and is dependable.  I would say they are not the same.

November 27, 5:20 pm | [comment link]
4. Br_er Rabbit wrote:

Allah is a Semitic derivative from the root Hebrew word El, the most ancient name for the Most High God.

November 27, 5:30 pm | [comment link]
5. Abu Daoud wrote:

Ann and Br Rabit, you are both correct. Allah was the proper name of a moon god. And that name is also related to the Semitic root wherefrom El is derived.

November 27, 5:52 pm | [comment link]
6. Br_er Rabbit wrote:

Thanks, Abu Daoud. I just learned something.

...on my way back to the Briar Patch,

November 27, 7:10 pm | [comment link]
7. NewTrollObserver wrote:

The God of the Hebrews is also connected to the moon. “Sinai” of Mount Sinai, also known as the mountain of Elohim and the mountain of Yahweh, is named after the Semitic Lunar Deity, “Sin”.

November 27, 8:58 pm | [comment link]
8. Br_er Rabbit wrote:

That’s a pretty thin connection, NewTroll. Polytheistic descendants of Hebrew tribes, including the Midianites, lived in that area and the name of the mountain would have been in place long before the exploits of Moses, etc.

...on my way back to the Briar Patch,

November 27, 9:40 pm | [comment link]
9. ann r wrote:

Brother Rabbit, “El” is the generic for “god” and can be applied to any, including pagan gods (“elohim” being the generic plural).  It is used for God sometimes, but does not replace his name.  In Genesis it mostly applies to the Most High God Creator of the Universe, but is not His name.

November 28, 4:33 pm | [comment link]
10. Br_er Rabbit wrote:

Ann, you are correct. What I should have said is that before the Hebrews knew the name YHWH they called him El. Across the Semitic languages el was used as a generic word for god and also (frequently) for the Most High God.

November 28, 4:52 pm | [comment link]
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