Ive read the various statments and what I read doesn’t fit with Kendall’s unfortunate headline. The Primate doesn’t “blast reasserters.” He says little to condemn reasserter theology. Rather, he “blasts” those who are breaking away and attemptings to take property with them. He also blasts the unwelcomed and univited intervention from a tiny province (22,000) and it’s arch bishop.

I’m heartened by Bishop Hiltz’s sudden rediscovery of ancient Christian principles.  Too bad it didn’t come earlier or in a less selective, less self-serving manner.  All of this could have been avoided.

It’s a shame the good cleric is not as zealous about the Word as he is about jurisdiction.

Re #1: The headline accurately paraphrases the opening paragraph of the story, which is a wildly inaccurate description of what the Primate (and the Archbishops, who are only mentioned at the end of the story) actually said. Terry Buckle, Archbishop of British Columbia and the Yukon, is about as orthodox as anyone could wish, and I hardly think he was “blasting” himself.

I came to this article after reading the Andrew Goddard piece linked above, and was immediately struck by the confirmation of what he had said. The “centrifugal forces currently threatening the unity of the Anglican Communion” have “produced (or perhaps uncovered) further points of tension.” As he suggests, “there are new fracture lines developing,” even within the camp of those who strongly support Lambeth I.10 and the Windsor Report. These additional tensions are making it even more difficult to hold the Communion together.

Another article I read today, by The Rev. Canon Benjamin Twinamaani of Uganda, shows how cultural differences complicate the situation still further. American reasserters are just as American as American reappraisers, and they both share American cultural tendencies. These tendencies, specifically individualism and the expectation of legal and canonical due process, will inevitably bring them into conflict with their comrades abroad, who have very different experiences and expectations.

All in all, not a promising outlook for containing the fracture of the Communion to only a couple of pieces.

Reading out a statement in all churches is likely to escalate the division. Church members who had no idea there was any conflict will become aware it. Othodox church members will become aware there is a major group of like minded people they can unite with. New attendees and marginal members will be put off by the threats and public conflict. If they let these people go away quietly no one would have really noticed and it would have all blown over in 2 months time. Instead it looks like its heading towards the same irrational strategy as in the US - lots of public bickering and lawsuits and news reports and jostling for the moral high ground.

The latest attendance figures for TEC should have taught them there are going to be more people leaving as ‘casualties of the war’ than they would have lost had they done a quiet settlement agreement.

If the average ASA of a parish is 70-90, it may survive in the long run. If it drops to 50-70, its long term survival is seriously compromised. 52% of TEC parishes lost more than 10% of their attendance in the last 5yrs. Overall, that only looks like 5% of members. But that can mean that half of those parishes can no longer afford full time clergy, or that their churches are so empty it discourages newcomers. It basically means that a huge percentage of the church will not survive. Many parishes in TEC won’t make it. If Canada follows the same route, Anglicanism will die in North America, unless the conservative movement can re-align and grow enough to take the place of the old establishment.

#5 Excellent point!  The are risking awakening those slumbering in benign ignorance in the pews.  By making a statement in all the churches they are calling undue attention on themselves.  TEC is much more canny than that, there is no way they would address such issues at the parrish-level and risk “informing” people that are much happier to be “uninformed”.

I, for one priest, will not be reading the primate’s letter in my parish. If asked for a copy, i will provide it with a recent good piece by J.I. Packer+ on the flip side.

Canada is an officially bilingual country, so I suggest reading it in its French translation.

RE: “He also blasts the unwelcomed and univited intervention from a tiny province (22,000) and it’s arch bishop.”

Wait—you mean . . . Nigeria?  Uganda?  Kenya?

Oh—right—it’s the Southern Cone.

A good scraped-up reason for insult there.  ; > )

But . . . awfully irrelevant.

Dale: I think you’re absolute right about the poor prospects for containing the fracturing of the Communion.  I wrote three replies to your thoughts on “your” thread about the national churches getting to decide their own directions about SSBs, etc., and then resisted the urge to post them, but the gist was that such “unilateral” actions will inevitably increase border crossings whatever the rights and wrongs of the issues are, and such incursions will not be limited to any one organization.

The Southern Cone church also has members in the U.S., Britain, Singapore and Malaysia, where conservative Anglicans have abandoned their local leadership to come under the jurisdiction of the British-born Venables…

I didn’t know +Venables had adherents in Britain. Presumably there is a breakaway congregation there? And, we don’t hear the archbishops of Canterbury and York complaining about uninvited intervention. Anyone know any more about this?

PP: 22,000 today. 220,000 tomorrow. 2,200,000 the next day.

I shall obey my bishop and read the letter - but not without reading the response by +Don Harvey found here [http://www.anglicannetwork.ca/network_responds_113007.htm]; and I might even include the letter from ++Gregory found here [http://www.anglicannetwork.ca/letter_venables_112207.htm].

I think the laos (that’s the People of God to those without the Greek) in my parish deserve to hear the truth along with the rhetoric.

And #7, do I know you…under the Green Roof?

Here in the Diocese of BC (Vancouver Island) we’ve been informed by the bishop’s office that

“The Pastoral Letter from the Primate and the Metropolitans has been posted on the national website but I am not issuing it in the Diocese of British Columbia “
so it does not need to be read out at your Sunday service.

Hence, since the bishop’s not forcing the letter, I will not be reading it, although I, too will have it available, together with Bp Don’s response. Last week I had available the letter from ABp Venables, as well as the ANiC statement.
Jim

To #13. I’m a priest in the diocese of Fredericton.

Re #11: I hadn’t noticed that line in my first read-thorough of the article. Can anyone confirm that Southern Cone really has congregations in Singapore and Malaysia, which are among the South East Asia sponsors of the AMiA? If so, I presume the next step would be for South East Asia or Rwanda to start church plants in Bolivia and Argentina. No piranha is safe when the feeding frenzy begins…

# 16 - Yes it’s true, Dale - haven’t you heard that Venables has consecrated a Chinese-Argentine for dissident congregations in Singapore. I believe he’s the Rt Rev Gau Cho.