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The United Methodist Church, for example, officially considers marriage an act between a man and a woman and forbids same-sex ceremonies.
But as a United Methodist minister, the Rev. Vivian R. Waltz doesn't see the fairness in the prohibition.
"Gay people," she said, also "are God's children."
Nor would she dismiss the possibility of presiding over a gay wedding.
"I would have to pray on that," said Waltz, minister of discipleship at Hamburg United Methodist Church. "I'm fully cognizant that such an act could jeopardize my credentials in the church. At the same time, I serve a God of justice, and the church's position is unjust."
The state's Roman Catholic bishops, including Bishop Edward U. Kmiec of the Diocese of Buffalo, have staunchly opposed the same-sex marriage legislation. And while the majority of Catholics also were opposed, a significant number of Catholics in New York — 39 percent — expressed support for legal gay marriage, according to a Quinnipiac College poll in May.
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2. BlueOntario wrote:
I would hope someone in her congregation or her bishop gets Rev. Waltz to tell us what “God’s children” means and to expand on where she derives her concept of “justice.” Pray for her and her parishoners as she teaches “discipline.” August 25, 8:48 am | [comment link] |
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3. Timothy wrote:
>”...a significant number of Catholics in New York — 39 percent — expressed support for legal gay marriage…” Fortunately, NY Catholics do NOT the Catholic Church make. Marriage will forever remain a sacrament requiring the valid matter of one woman and one man. Interesting that the Methodist congregation “officially considers marriage an act”. Protesting long established sacraments has consequences. God bless… August 25, 8:35 pm | [comment link] |
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4. Words Matter wrote:
When it suits your argument, just over 1/3rd of Catholics is certainly “significant”. And it’s too precious by half to find some cafeteria Catholic and give him twice the space as you give those bad old bishops. In any case, surveys of Catholics are valid only when tey control for practice: a Catholic who goes to Mass sporadically (Easter, Christmas, baptisms, and weddings) is certainly likely to fall prey to the cultural norms. August 25, 9:18 pm | [comment link] |
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5. Larry Morse wrote:
But why limit this to “monogamous?” Aren’t polygamistes God’s children also? Don’t they deserve social justice? the argument that amarriage is essential to receive the social benefits complained of is nonsense. Civil partnerships will provide these benefits. |
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6. NoVA Scout wrote:
NO. 5: I agree that civil union secular arrangements would eliminate the legal disparity between M-F and SS relationships. But these changes to the secular legal regime governing relationships have been strongly opposed across the country on religious grounds. In my state we enacted a constitutional amendment (that was supported from the pulpit of my church) forbidding any legislation that would replicate the benefits of marriage in a civil context. It seems to me (and I think you have expressed a similar view in another thread) that one way to protect the religious significance and content of marriage is to support secular measures that provide equivalent legal status to same-sex unions. That would defuse this problem of disparate legal treatments, but leave the churches with full authority to defend and enforce the nature of religious marriage. August 26, 5:42 am | [comment link] |
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Rev. Waltz should do a lot of praying because, as she said, she would be violating the book of Discipline were she to officiate at a gay wedding and would deserve to be brought up on charges. If she wants to officiate at a gay union she should go join the ELCA.
August 25, 7:14 am | [comment link]