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2. Jim K wrote:
This long and thoroughly argued address could well serve as a graduate course in the New Testament’s view of fellowship in general. With regard to homosexuality, his most telling point: “The point is in a passage like 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 we are warned that these matters are deceptive. We are warned that these matters exclude people from the Kingdom of God. There has been universal acceptance of the meaning of these words down the centuries and across the spectrum of Biblical scholarship – and while there may be scholars who today want to dispute the meanings of some words they have no agreement amongst themselves or any persuasion of the vast community of scholarship. I have seen nothing to persuade me that the words sustain some unusual meaning.” |
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3. Spiro wrote:
Long, but well worth the read/time. “It would be important to check the facts and to make sure that they did understand what they were doing and did it intentionally. It would be important to ask them to repent. To do it slowly, carefully, politely, privately and if need be publicly. But once it is clear that this is their studied intentional position then the options are clear. Either accept them for they have done the right thing or reject them for they are in serious error. There really is no middle ground left. “The last five years have demonstrated every conceivable attempt at bringing them to repentance. All has failed. “The meeting at Lambeth is the welcome acceptance of them into the continuing fellowship of God’s people. “If you believe that they are wrong there is no way you can join in such a gathering of supposed Christian fellowship. It is not a matter of preference but of obedience. “You cannot accuse others of disobeying the scriptures on homosexuality while you yourselves are disobeying equally clear commands of scripture to avoid such false teachers.” Well said. Nothing more to add. Fr. Kingsley |
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4. rugbyplayingpriest wrote:
Wow! I was not aware we Anglicans had Bishops with the ability to speak clearly and with such firmness. Whatever you might think of his theology- it is refreshing to see a clear and principled argument that sets out the issue so clearly. |
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5. ReinertJ wrote:
#4, Sorry to have to tell you this, but this is by Phillip Jensen, not Peter Jensen. Phillip is the Dean of St. Andrews Cathedral, Peter is the Archbishop. Although I am sure Peter would agree with everything Phillip says, as evidenced by the decision to go to Jerusalem rather than Lambeth. |
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6. oldnarnian wrote:
I suggest a correction of the title. “Lamb” brings to mind a certain alleged bishop in the San Joaquin valley, not a gathering of Anglican bishops from across the world. April 1, 6:17 am | [comment link] |
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7. libraryjim wrote:
I got the impression that the full headline would not fit, that it was supposed to be LAMBeth, but I only figured that out after a bit of staring at the screen Jim Elliott <>< April 1, 1:27 pm | [comment link] |
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8. libraryjim wrote:
Wow, the concluding three paragraphs are so full of power, that they can only be commented on with “wow”: April 1, 1:30 pm | [comment link] |
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9. rob k wrote:
All this coming from one who believes in lay celebration of the Eucharist and thinks that Roman Catholics are not really Christian, and who sneers at “sacramentalists” (or his brother does). No better than Spong & co. April 2, 10:21 pm | [comment link] |
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THANK YOU. It is not possible to find fault with his argument or to disagree with his conclusions.
March 31, 5:28 pm | [comment link]