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By Terry Tee on July 27, 2016 at 5:49 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (1st Things) Pierre Manent--Faced with radical Islamist attacks, what is Europe doing?

Forgive another bite at the cherry.

I forgot to add to the list of those wheeled in to intimidate us was the POTUS.

Since the referendum voices have been heard in the EU leadership saying that British exit shows there is a problem in the EU and the only way to solve it is ... by further renunciations of state sovereignty and making EU governance even more centralised. Which would only further alienate the Western European populace. Like the Bourbons after the French revolution, it can be said that th Eurocratic elite have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.



By Terry Tee on July 27, 2016 at 5:43 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (1st Things) Pierre Manent--Faced with radical Islamist attacks, what is Europe doing?

There is much here that is thought-provoking, although I lost his train of argument where he began saying that the Catholic Church alone can create a space of hospitality for other religions in France today. I do not think he showed this nor that I agree. However, it was at points like someone reading my secret thoughts. I found myself wondering recently about the whole concept of human rights, which has done so much to free people and yet has also dissolved ancient ties that bind us together, at the same time eroding any common ethic. The liberal position is that we must agree to differ and (this is the crucial part) that the state mediates between any differences. But the state in a climate that prizes human rights above all else will always legislate for the individual. Pierre Manent gives us further reason to think along these lines by arguing there that there is now nothing between the individual and the state, with all real associations being depreciated and undermined.

Who knows what was in the minds of the 17+ million voters who chose here in the UK to leave the EU? I doubt if they would have articulated it the way it is expressed in this article. But I suspect that deep inside they shared the same fears and frustrations described here, the same feeling that things fall apart, the centre cannot hold and that our gilded elites see no problem in this. Incidentally, the institutional pressure on us to vote otherwise was huge - the Treasury, the BBC, the Prime Minister, the official position of the political parties, many, perhaps most of the leading economists, etc. Without this bias, the majority would have been even larger. Or so I think.



By Katherine on July 27, 2016 at 7:56 am [comment link]
From the entry: (1st Things) Pierre Manent--Faced with radical Islamist attacks, what is Europe doing?

When Europe gave up its Christian basis, it set itself adrift in a turbulent sea.  The attack on the church in France makes very clear, to those who will look, the foundational anti-Christian nature of Islam.  Where does Europe, and where do Europeans, stand with relation to Christ?



By Jeremy Bonner on July 27, 2016 at 5:10 am [comment link]
From the entry: (UNHCR) South Sudan fighting drives surge of refugees to Uganda

What a tragedy that the division of Sudan not only opened the way for the greater persecution of Christians in the Muslim north but has brought South Sudan to this juncture.

Even were one to assume that most of those involved in the fighting were something other than the roughly 60 percent (according to Pew) identifying as Christians, it’s still a sobering reminder of what the Global South is called to overcome.



By Undergroundpewster on July 24, 2016 at 4:43 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Rod Dreher on news that Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass., is packing up Shop

The professors designed those courses so they wouldn’t have to teach them and still get paid. They knew no one would show up.



By Undergroundpewster on July 24, 2016 at 4:26 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Seven Canadian bishops dissent from same-sex marriage vote as 'contrary to God's Word written'

The victors get to write the history, and the losers’ words will not be included.



By Katherine on July 23, 2016 at 7:36 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (SHNS) Pat Summitt never hid her quiet, strong faith

May she rest in peace.



By Ad Orientem on July 23, 2016 at 7:30 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Rod Dreher on news that Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass., is packing up Shop

Glory to God for small victories.



By Capt. Father Warren on July 23, 2016 at 10:48 am [comment link]
From the entry: Rod Dreher on news that Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass., is packing up Shop

The translation while entertaining was wholly unnecessary.



By oursonpolaire on July 23, 2016 at 7:20 am [comment link]
From the entry: Seven Canadian bishops dissent from same-sex marriage vote as 'contrary to God's Word written'

Ad Orientem might not be aware of one of the peculiarities of Canadian canon law, as a national canon needs to be received by diocesan synods before it applies to an individual diocese.  If a bishop resigns, he faces the possibility of a successor who will quite happily encourage their synod to receive the revised XXI in three years.
As far as slugging is concerned, it’s not an aspect of Canadian decision-making (with the exception of Presbyterian life of the 1800s)—our cultural inclinations usually over-ride other considerations.



By Stephen Noll on July 21, 2016 at 1:30 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (1st Things) Paige Hochschild: Contrary to the popular view, children are integral to marriage

Readers may be interested to know that the ACNA has now approved a
new rite of Holy Matrimony, including a commentary.



By Milton on July 20, 2016 at 12:33 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (CT) Mark Galli--Whom Should We Blame for the Violence?

How does Galli square each of us being guilty of the sins of us all (sounds like he never heard of that Jesus guy) with Ezekiel Chapter 18, summed up by:

Ezekiel 18:20 The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

Just more liberal groupthink and moral equivocation from Galli.



By Blue Cat Man on July 19, 2016 at 12:32 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop of London Richard Chartres announces his intention to retire in 2017

I may not have my remembrance correct, but I seem to remember hearing him speak at Mere Anglicanism, and we all chuckled when he said that when he received the invitation to speak, he knew that the colonies “had forgiven us”.



By Jim the Puritan on July 18, 2016 at 6:13 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Western Jurisdiction elects a Untd Methodist bishop who is a woman married to another woman

Sorry, Father Harmon—Like I said, it was my bad eyesight, not your headline.  You are, however, probably aware of “Johnson’s First Law of Episcopal Thermodynamics”—one interpretation of which could be that that which seems preposterous today becomes reality tomorrow.



By Kendall Harmon on July 18, 2016 at 6:03 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Western Jurisdiction elects a Untd Methodist bishop who is a woman married to another woman

I apologize #1 for any confusion, the software limits the length of headlines and it makes some of them hard to write well. I have edited it to be more clear now.



By Pb on July 18, 2016 at 9:33 am [comment link]
From the entry: Western Jurisdiction elects a Untd Methodist bishop who is a woman married to another woman

“This election raises significant concerns and questions of church polity and unity.” This is a perfect time for dialogue or indaba.



By Jim the Puritan on July 18, 2016 at 2:44 am [comment link]
From the entry: Western Jurisdiction elects a Untd Methodist bishop who is a woman married to another woman

I have to get my glasses checked.  I did a double-take when I initially thought the headline was “bishop who is a woman married to 2 other women.”  I was thinking that the slippery slope is happening even faster than I thought.



By James Manley on July 17, 2016 at 8:58 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (C of E) A prayer for Nice France

What are we confused about?



By driver8 on July 17, 2016 at 10:49 am [comment link]
From the entry: (Psephizo) Ian Paul on General Synod’s Shared Conversations on Sexuality

What an interesting report. Intriguing to see the comments section too.

At this point there seems no substantive difference between the Liberal and Anglo-Catholics. Does Affirming Forwardness exist yet?

The fight for orthodoxy now rests with the evangelicals and I suspect they just don’t have the numbers to win votes in the medium term. As in the reported shared conversations, what the church has taught from Jesus until, well, now, will become one option in a smorgasbord of local options. Then it’ll be derided. Then it’ll be banned.



By Ad Orientem on July 17, 2016 at 12:22 am [comment link]
From the entry: Seven Canadian bishops dissent from same-sex marriage vote as 'contrary to God's Word written'

I’d be more impressed if they actually did something besides issue yet another in the long series of bland statements from Anglican bishops confronted with clear heresy. St. Athanasius did not react this way. Nor did Maximus the Confessor. Maybe the example of St. Nicholas who purportedly slugged Arius might be a bridge too far for the famously polite and reserved Anglican clergy.

But seriously, how about the principled resignation? Have we fallen so far that men of the cloth value their pay check over their duty to uphold and defend Christian orthodoxy?



By dwstroudmd+ on July 16, 2016 at 9:58 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (Psephizo) Ian Paul on General Synod’s Shared Conversations on Sexuality

The conclusion was foregone.  The cOC was just trying to belatedly keep up with the times (http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/65593/) as the “argumentation” demonstrates.



By dwstroudmd+ on July 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Seven Canadian bishops dissent from same-sex marriage vote as 'contrary to God's Word written'

So, how quickly does Hiltz do a Schori and defrock ‘em as examples?



By BlueOntario on July 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Charge by the Most Revd Jackson Ole Sapit at his enthronement as 6th Archbishop of Kenya

Truth.



By farstrider+ on July 13, 2016 at 7:08 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

What are faithful Anglicans in Canada going to do now?

The ACNA was founded by Americans and Canadians together back in 2009, so many (most?) won’t be directly affected by the decision. For those who remained in the old structure… I guess they have some decisions to make.



By The Rev. Steven P. Tibbetts, STS on July 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

Sadly, this take me back to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America’s 2009 Churchwide Assembly, where the unfortunate social statement Human Sexuality: Gift and Trust received the exact 2/3rds vote needed for passage.  Indeed, every vote matters.



By BlueOntario on July 13, 2016 at 11:19 am [comment link]
From the entry: (WP) Tony Evans-America’s current violence can be traced to Christians’ failures

I would argue that many American churches are already trying to be all things to all people in an effort to unite the church with the world around it. It may be one of the reasons that Christianity, the institutional version, is so roundly ignored by the society he seeks to change. A look at political polling from earlier this year shows clear evidence that nominal Evangelicals, and I would say you could extend that to nominal Christians of many ilk, really don’t cling to the cross despite of or in spite of what they may have heard from a pulpit in their lifetimes.

Should the churches preach character, and personal responsibility for actions and omissions, through the Gospel? Of course. But I don’t think that’s what is being asked of the church.



By Undergroundpewster on July 13, 2016 at 9:02 am [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

What are faithful Anglicans in Canada going to do now?



By tjmcmahon on July 12, 2016 at 7:59 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

I should have checked my email before assuming that the propaganda dept had not already sent out an announcement
http://www.anglicannews.org/news/2016/07/canadian-anglicans-reject-same-sex-marriage-by-one-vote.aspx

So it will be interesting to see if ACNS prints a correction tomorrow, or if they just leave up the incorrect story, hoping the GS doesn’t get word…



By tjmcmahon on July 12, 2016 at 7:49 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

oops, should read “bishops of the large dioceses...” in the second section above.



By tjmcmahon on July 12, 2016 at 7:47 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

Glad that’s over, actually.  With the way it was going, SSM was defeated, but the primate and majority of bishops were going to openly defy their own canons- while at the same time proclaiming to the Anglican Communion that nothing had changed.

Granted, there will have to be a second reading, but based on the statements of the various bishops, gay marriage is the law in the vast majority of parishes, because it was the bishops of the large who have abandoned the communion of the Church.

Now the GS and other faithful followers of Christ within the Communion have a stark reality before them, and Mr Hiltz no longer has the veil of his canons to hide behind.  By this act, the ACoC has broken communion with the majority of the Anglican Communion, and violated the Primates’ Agreement.

Wonder if the propaganda arm at Lambeth palace got the word before they hit the hay?  Would be terribly embarrassing if tomorrow morning someone issued the press release they spent all day writing, about the rejection of gay marriage by the Canadians.



By dwstroudmd+ on July 12, 2016 at 5:22 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

Well, at least everyone will know how the General Secretary voted, eh?  Perhaps lionization for future generations will be in order, if there are any future generations.



By Kendall Harmon on July 12, 2016 at 4:51 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Anglican Church of Canada PASSES amended same-sex Marriage Motion after corrected Miscount

What a huge turn of events. Every vote matters.



By Milton on July 12, 2016 at 4:23 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (NYT Op-ed) David Brooks--Are We on the Path to National Ruin?

Googling “david brooks nyt national ruin” got me to the article quickly.



By tired on July 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (CP) Delegates complain of bullying as Canadian Anglican synod debates same-sex marriage

“It is breaking my heart that there are people who see…”

Perhaps it would be edifying to investigate how they came to this conclusion.



By tired on July 12, 2016 at 4:02 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop John Chapman of Ottawa responds to the General Synod Vote on Same-Sex Marriage

“While no clergy will be required to officiate…”

This simply appears to be self-righteous preening.  Bp Chapman’s carefree departure from biblical Christianity renders his oversight and communion a severe challenge, if not intolerable, for any hapless faithful clergy that happen to remain.



By profpk on July 12, 2016 at 3:06 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (NYT Op-ed) David Brooks--Are We on the Path to National Ruin?

Clicking on “read it all” simply brings the truncated post back.



By dwstroudmd+ on July 12, 2016 at 2:32 pm [comment link]
From the entry: A Follow up Anglican Journal article on the Canadian Same-sex Marriage Vote

Let the bullying begin in earnest: http://www.timescolonist.com/god-did-not-create-another-adam-anglicans-vote-down-same-sex-marriage-1.2298929 .  Bishops overriding the vote to force it on their dioceses, hyperventilating agents insisting on a coming rise in suicides occasioned by the “great refusal” and exaggerated vapors by alleged trans observers over the horror of it all.  Yes, the real bullying will begin,



By dwstroudmd+ on July 12, 2016 at 2:26 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop John Chapman of Ottawa responds to the General Synod Vote on Same-Sex Marriage

TEc2.0.

Next, cOE.



By Undergroundpewster on July 12, 2016 at 11:08 am [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop John Chapman of Ottawa responds to the General Synod Vote on Same-Sex Marriage

Rules? Who needs rules?



By tjmcmahon on July 11, 2016 at 6:59 pm [comment link]
From the entry: The Now Amended Motion Being Considered by Ang Church of Canada General Synod

I note that the amendment has removed all the language that would have allowed individual parishes to “opt out,” and under this, as long as the diocesan bishop approves (and most are on record at this point), the local parish has little to say about it.  Nor is there a conscience clause, as such, within the revised canon.

Unfortunately, Mr. Hiltz has apparently done the work he set out to do after the HoB meeting earlier this year, and is fairly confident that he has the votes in his back pocket from enough bishops to pass this thing.  If he did not, he would have not allowed it to come to the floor, which is what he implied he would do when it failed before the bishops earlier this year.

The prevarication to follow from Welby is by now well rehearsed.



By Katherine on July 11, 2016 at 12:39 pm [comment link]
From the entry: [Christian Today] Synod faces conservative boycott over gay marriage talks

#2, I’m guessing the “liberal wing” is TEC, and the other is the ACNA.  TEC leaders won’t be happy with that statement of equivalence.



By Jeff Walton on July 11, 2016 at 10:13 am [comment link]
From the entry: [Christian Today] Synod faces conservative boycott over gay marriage talks

I was wondering the same thing—was there a specific grant from TEC itself, or was this funded by Trinity Wall Street or another church?



By Jim the Puritan on July 10, 2016 at 10:40 pm [comment link]
From the entry: [Martin Davie] Why Issues of Human Sexuality are Not Adiaphora

The New Testament is clear that sexual purity is a core requirement of the Christian life.

“But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.”  Ephesians 5:3-5



By dwstroudmd+ on July 10, 2016 at 9:00 pm [comment link]
From the entry: [Christian Today] Synod faces conservative boycott over gay marriage talks

” the liberal wing of the Anglican Church in the USA” would be what institution in the mind of the author, I wonder?  Those of us in the hinterlands know it as TEc, and I have no doubt that it would have funded the undermining of doctrine in the cOE, if it could afford it, but I do think it is a bit cash strapped what with litigation funding.

I am still smiling and wondering if the author of this article believes in a non-liberal wing of the Anglican Church in the USA?!  - in TEc, I mean.



By Katherine on July 10, 2016 at 6:11 pm [comment link]
From the entry: [Christian Today] Synod faces conservative boycott over gay marriage talks

I would be interested to know if conservatives did refuse to play this “shared conversation” game, and also if the American funding charge is true.



By Undergroundpewster on July 10, 2016 at 5:54 pm [comment link]
From the entry: Selimah Harmon Launches a Website about her animal photography

Very nice.



By Undergroundpewster on July 10, 2016 at 5:52 pm [comment link]
From the entry: [CofE Archbishops Council] Securing 'Good Disagreement' next stage after 'Facilitated Conversations'

The die is cast. Everyone knows that the facilitated conversations will go nowhere. The only purpose is to be able to say, “Look, we tried”. “Good disagreement” can only mean that the progressive ball has moved further down the field.



By Kendall Harmon on July 9, 2016 at 11:30 am [comment link]
From the entry: Wednesday Food for Thought--J.F. Powers on the Church

This was quoted in the sermon for Bishop Salmon’s Memorial service.



By Pb on July 8, 2016 at 2:20 pm [comment link]
From the entry: (AP) Dallas Shootings deadliest for law enforcement since 9/11

This should be investigated as possible domestic terrorism. Shooter is said to have belonged to this group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party



By Vatican Watcher on July 7, 2016 at 11:51 am [comment link]
From the entry: (Crux) Even in the Ozarks, Anglican tradition finds space inside Catholicism

An interesting read.  I remember following Father Chori Seraiah’s own blog for awhile as he documented his move into the Catholic Church and spent some time in Iowa at an Anglican parish that eventually chose to stay where it was.  Nice to see Father Seraiah has landed in the Ordinariate.


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