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By Summersnow on June 14, 2007 at 11:47 am [comment link]
From the entry: One View of Life in the Diocese of Newark These Days

I found this interesting reading.  plainparson, I’m curious—do you have any other sources that offer an alternative view?

sj engelhardt



By Reactionary on June 14, 2007 at 11:44 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

DaveW,

It won’t happen “just as oil reserves are about to be depleted.”  Assuming Peak Oil is true, the increasing scarcity will drive up the price to the point that alternatives to oil are more competitive.  Entrepeneurs will enter the field and over time, competition will drive down cost.  This is how markets work and there is not a commodity on earth where it has not happened.  But if you really want to throw a wrench in the whole affair, involve government so we get products like ethanol that actually consume more energy in their production.

Personally, I hope and pray that Peak Oil is right.  More people will telecommute, less green area will be paved under, and the Middle East can go back to being a desert backwater that nobody much cares about.



By Rolling Eyes on June 14, 2007 at 11:42 am [comment link]
From the entry: Newark Diocese Addresses Executive Council, Moves Forward on Same-Sex Blessing

PadreWayne: “IMO and the opinions of the APA and many, many Christians, homosexuality is not a disordered attraction.
IMO and the opinions of many, many Christians, homosexual activity is not sinful.”

Luckily, your opinions matter VERY little when it comes to Church teaching.  You refuse to accept Church teaching on sexuality, therefore it is reasonable to ask how you can consider yourself a Christian, especially a Catholic/Anglican.  THAT is what is “unclear”.



By plainsheretic on June 14, 2007 at 11:33 am [comment link]
From the entry: One View of Life in the Diocese of Newark These Days

We know that everything we read on the internet is true. Really.



By dpeirce on June 14, 2007 at 11:33 am [comment link]
From the entry: From Fulcrum: Graham Kings on Lambeth Invitations and Rowan Williams

Looking for “When did it start?” Ordination of women isn’t the starting point, IMHO.

It goes back to the 1930s when TEC was the first Christian Church to accept contraception, which goes back to infiltration of universities and seminaries by secular liberals during the 1700s and 1800s, which goes back to rebellion against the Church in the Protestant Reformation, which goes back to the Church’s corruption by worldly values, which goes back to Israel’s rejection of Christ, which goes back to Israel/Judah’s rebellion against worship of God alone, which goes back to Israel’s complaints against God at Meribah, which goes back to Eve/Adam’s rebellion against God’s command, which goes back to Lucifer’s rebellion against God, which goes back to…..

Point is, the brothers can fight, but reconciliation/unity will only occur when both accept God’s word as it is given to them and not as they would like for it to be. There really isn’t any other way no matter how much we struggle to find one. Read The Revelation.

Doom-saying must be much more fun than waiting to see. How odd ^_^!!!!!

In faith, Dave
Viva Texas



By DaveW on June 14, 2007 at 11:29 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Is it wrong to suppose that just as oil reserves are about to be depleted, someone will step out from behind the curtain with an alternative fuel source that will solve the crisis and set everyone’s minds at ease?  At a fair price, of course.



By libraryjim on June 14, 2007 at 11:27 am [comment link]
From the entry: From The Seeker: Gospel of global warming

oops, cut it off too soon. The bottom line is that these editors questioned the graph that forms the basis for human cause theory of Global warming, saying it left out important climate data such as the “medieval warming period’,  and so had to resign.  There are more articles like this on the web (in fact, I posted on on the old forum). But I have to get to work, so I can’t post anymore for a while!
See you!
Jim Elliott



By plainsheretic on June 14, 2007 at 11:24 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

Jody,
Good insight. I agree. I think until we actually see real unity, not just kind letters showing support, the rhetoric is just that rherotic.
I think there is too much to gain for many of the primates to simply let go. People forget the Archbishop of Nigeria asked Griswold to set up a seperate nigerian ministry long ago, when they were friends.

There are to many divisions- and currently the rhetoric says they are uniting around common essentials- but I won’t beleive it till it happens.



By libraryjim on June 14, 2007 at 11:23 am [comment link]
From the entry: From The Seeker: Gospel of global warming

Mathman:
to wit:
from MIT’s Technology review online edition:

Six hundred years ago, the world was warm. Or maybe it wasn’t. What’s the truth? Beware. This question has recently been elevated from a mere scientific quandary to one of the hot (or cold) issues of modern politics. Argue in favor of the wrong answer and you risk being branded a liberal alarmist or a conservative Neanderthal. Or you might lose your job.

Six editors recently resigned from the journal Climate Research because of this issue. Their crime: publishing the article “Proxy Climatic and Environmental Changes of the Past 1,000 Years,” by W. Soon and S. Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
Without passing judgment on this particular paper, I can still point out that our journals are full of poor papers. If editors were dismissed every time they published one, they would all be out of work within a month or two. What made the Soon and Baliunas situation different is that their paper attracted enormous attention. And that’s because it threw doubt on the hockey stick.



By Laocoon on June 14, 2007 at 11:21 am [comment link]
From the entry: From The Seeker: Gospel of global warming

Mathman,

You are a master of the red herring. My hat’s off to you.  The fact that climates have always changed, here and on other planets, is irrelevant to my point.  My point is that we are probably having some impact, and that impact will likely cause harm, and we ought to avoid doing harm if we can.  Is that so objectionable?  Why should one find that so threatening?

Climates appear to be changing worldwide, not just in the locations you mention.

I am not claiming to know all the causes, and I will suspect that anyone who claims to know all the causes is a charlatan or a liar.

Similarly, I will wonder about the motives of anyone—and especially someone who claims to be a Christian—who denies that humans have an impact on our environment; or who claims that such an impact is morally negligible.  What did we do to Eden?  We fouled it with sin.  (Maybe your ancestors were better than mine, but mine had at least one chance to foul the place, and we jumped on the opportunity, with unpleasant results for all.  Sorry about that.)  What was the impact on agriculture?  We were “booted out” and inherited a place where it’s much harder to grow our food.  And yes, Lewis was talking about our sinful nature.  My point is that he does so by pointing to the consequences of our nature on our natural environment, which is what is at issue here:  “Even inanimate nature he turns into dust-bowls and slag-heaps….”  Disagree with his conclusions if you like, but don’t pretend he’s not saying what he’s plainly saying: we humans make a mess of the place, as a result of our sinful nature. 

I suppose you’re right: we can always choose not to apologize if we’re wrong.  But does an unwillingness to repent seem like a good idea to you? 

Libraryjim’s point about scientists who hold contrary views (a point you also make) is an important one, and am glad to acknowledge it.  I am an untenured academic myself—this is why I post under a pseudonym—and I know the way politics affects academic life and freedom. 

So let me make this as plain as I can: I am not claiming that we are the absolute and sole cause of climate change.  Climate change appears to be happening, and it seems _likely_ that we are having _some_ impact on that.  It also seems _likely_ that some very bad consequences will follow from climate change.  I therefore think it behooves us to pay attention to how we live our lives, examining them to see if there are ways in which we are causing harm to our neighbors.  These neighbors include those who are yet to inherit this place, arguably. 

I do not want to embrace trendy political slogans any more than I want to embrace the selfish disregard for neighbor that comes with my sinful nature.  I find myself tempted by both, and though I know I cannot save myself, much less my world, from the consequences of my sin, my love for Christ makes me want to at least do as little harm as I can.  Mock that if you will.

Finally, I will continue to vote for people who I think will do the most good and the least harm, and I encourage you to do the same.



By libraryjim on June 14, 2007 at 11:17 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

I read not too long ago that Cuba is to begin exploratory drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico.  This is a case of if we don’t go for it, someone else will, and not with our regulatory policies.



By BillS on June 14, 2007 at 11:12 am [comment link]
From the entry: From ENS: Executive Council set to discuss communiqué, Anglican covenant responses

News you can use-

The Episcopal Church today has formed a subcommittee to study the draft of the communique whose responsibility will be to draft the report for the subcommittee to study. This draft, known as the Draft of Anglicanism or DOA, will be referred to the HoB for final rejection on Sept 30.

PB Schori was quoted as saying, “Everyone’s mind is made up, the only issue for debate is how to say no and go to Lambeth. Now that we have all been invited, this challenge to our faith from those who would exclude some of us in pluriform truth seems not to be too small of a box.”

Details at 11:00.



By Jody+ on June 14, 2007 at 11:12 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

I have to disagree with those who say that the orthodox front represented by AMiA, CANA, a portion of the Network et al. is unified.  Yes, they are unified when faced with a common enemy in the errors of the Episcopal Church, and support one another in efforts to provide various forms of oversight, however—and it’s a big however—there is the “fact on the ground” that there are multiple organizations of orthodox Anglicans with different structures, different affiliations and different viewpoints.  If CANA were well loved, why would +Nzimbi not simply transfer oversight of his congregations to +Minns and Nigeria?  If AMiA were well respected by all orthodox, why create CANA?  The answers are complex in the sense that many parishes have disaffiliated with ECUSA and found safe-harbor where their rectors or other leadership already had relationships, be it with Belize, Uganda, Kenya etc… but the “facts on the ground” also include the fact that these groups haven’t found it in their hearts to join together organically, and common-cause, while it has a web site, hasn’t done a whole lot in most places to add cohesion to the flotilla at an organizational level.  The cohesion there is, is ideological and would exist one way or the other since people view themselves as fighting different aspects of the same battles.  But there is almost as much disunity among the orthodox as there is between the reasserters and reappraisers.  AMiA still carries a lot of baggage with orthodox folks in ECUSA and, frankly it seems, in CANA as well.  Over the past several years I’ve heard a lot of things from orthodox priests which can be summarized in the following way: AMiA bruised feelings because they left too early, cost this or that orthodox person a bishop election by taking parishes out of a diocese that had been on the fence, they’ve offended other orthodox folks by where they’ve decided to plant churches, by the fact that they’re based out of a parish whose membership in the Diocese of South Carolina is disputed, and—perhaps most importantly really—they’re mistrusted because their leadership structure isn’t traditional and it seems more corporate.  Why else would +Minn’s feel it necessary to make the point that “CANA is a gift without strings” except to ease the concerns and take a shot at the organization of AMiA with it’s close ties to Rwanda?  On the flip side, some people in AMiA have been felt to be abrasive by others who have stayed in ECUSA longer by making seemingly accusatory statements about how they should have come out of Babylon much sooner.  Ditto the way some continuing Church members have reacted.  The concern that there may soon be “more purple than people” is a legitimate one, especially given the fact that most people who are leaving the Episcopal Church don’t seem to be going to any of the other Anglican alternatives.

Perhaps I’m cynical, but I think we may be giving too much credit for planning and forethought to decisions that are being made for immediate concerns without a lot of thought as to how a reorganization of all the disparate entities might occur.  How many Bishops are there on the orthodox side these days?  Will there be enough people to justify that many dioceses in whatever structure comes out of all this?  Or will the Neo-Anglican orthodox movement wind up like the continuing church, despite it’s somewhat brighter beginning and languish in division and ego-centered conflict?  Is our standard the cross of Jesus Christ or “for every tribe a flag?”  These are just some of my concerns as I see events unfold.  And what saddens me is that, while I worship Jesus the best in the Anglican tradition, at the moment none of the orthodox options is very attractive for a variety of reasons, but mostly because of disunity and the prevalence in one on one conversation of old conflicts.  I’m a young man and a young priest, why do I want to waste my time working with bunch of old men fighting personality conflicts that are 10-30 years old? 

So, I’ve supported ACI and their goals.  I consider myself a “Communion Conservative” because communion discipline and institutional integrity seems the best way to avoid competing cults of personality and petty conflict, and it seems to me that it’s the most faithful way to proceed—at least for the way I understand communion and discipline from the scriptures. 

And, as long as I’m rambling, I have to express my discomfort with the threats of some in the global south to boycott Lambeth?  Why would they do that?  After Lambeth 1998 the orthodox have a majority, any boycott may well give the reappraisers the victory they want.  Saying this as humbly and respectfully as I can given the Godly leadership of the GS in the past, it would be a travesty if we allowed what appears to be a degree of pride to prevent us from saving the Communion and taking a stand for the Gospel in the councils of the Church.  I’m sure there are a number of people on Kendell’s blog who know a great deal more about the workings of the communion, but it seems to me that there’s no way the reasserters could out vote the orthodox at Lambeth if the orthodox showed up.  From my perspective, and I know others have expressed similar concerns, we seem to be poised to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  Has there been any answer to the ACI’s questions as to why the Primates have yet to appoint their members of the pastoral council?  Or +Rowan?  The House of Bishop’s sneezes and the orthodox throw up their hands and start pushing their own agendas?  Why not go ahead with the Dar Es Salaam plan with or without ECUSA’s official approval (adjusted accordingly of course), rather than run in such varied directions.  If there is some master plan behind all of these things, then I’ll certainly recant my comments, but right now it just seems like people deciding to play different ball games on different courts while still claiming to be on the same one.



By Steven in Falls Church on June 14, 2007 at 11:10 am [comment link]
From the entry: One View of Life in the Diocese of Newark These Days

This posting is like “Lord of the Flies” meets the Levy Pants factory from “A Confederacy of Dunces.”  The kids are in charge and, through comical mismanagement, are driving the place to ruin.



By Reactionary on June 14, 2007 at 11:09 am [comment link]
From the entry: One View of Life in the Diocese of Newark These Days

This does not surprise me at all.  Black, Hispanic and Asian ethnic minorities are increasingly wandering off the Marxist reservation, and for some time now the Left has been quietly tiptoeing away from the cause of ethnic pride.  The Left is slowly beginning to realize that they have let a particularly potent jinni out of the bottle:  the multiculturalism they championed for so long is actually the undoing of the atheistic secular state, and so they must scramble to find a conveniently non-sectarian Aggrieved Minority to advance their agenda.



By azusa on June 14, 2007 at 10:51 am [comment link]
From the entry: In Massachusetts, Pressure mounts in gay marriage debate

If the legislature doesn’t trust the voters of Massachusetts, they should kick ‘em out and choose a new electorate.



By KAR on June 14, 2007 at 10:50 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

#46 Plainsperson,

I must confess that I agree with #47’s comment. Blog are read and even attempted to be manipulated by some very powerful people in the discussion.

In fact, I may have been the one expressing “uninformed concerns” about +Minns installation, but I was responding to a story in the Washington Times when made some comments (I had a very minority position and this story was not widely circulated on the blogs).

So an odd thing happen, either +Duncan is accusing various other members of the Episcopate of being ill informed of their own intentions and opinions or the Washington Times of improper & poor journalism or he didn’t know about the one article but did know about some ‘uninformed’ idiot (my word for myself) babbling on a blog. I think the last one is most likely, if so then blogs had a greater influence that the mass media in this one instance.



By azusa on June 14, 2007 at 10:48 am [comment link]
From the entry: From AP: Sony in talks with Church of England

‘Fall of Man’! See, it’s teaching theology, for goodness’ sake!

And the game is about fightin’ pesty aliens threatening the world!



By seitz on June 14, 2007 at 10:46 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

Mr Griffith—You are doubtless correct, if a little provocative for rhetorical value!. Points taken all the same. Very best wishes and every success with the enterprise. Apologies to all for any perceived intemperance. Would not want that!



By jamesw on June 14, 2007 at 10:44 am [comment link]
From the entry: Statement from the Most Rev. Henry Luke Orombi

TPaine:  Read what I said carefully please.  I did not say that any individual or group of individuals had “ceased to be Christian”.  I said that the statement “We’re doing our thing, and they’re free to do theirs” does not reflect a Christian approach and if TEC chooses to make that its rallying cry, then it should cease to claim to be a Christian institution, because its primary focus would not be Christian (i.e. accepting of mutual submission), but individualistic.

D.C. - All four of the Instruments of Communion have told TEC not to do what it did.  Mutual submission isn’t the same things as “everyone gets to do what they want.”  Mutual submission is when the Communion says NO, the individual Province doesn’t ignore it and do it anyway.

D.C. - Regarding your example of the apostles, it seems that you don’t quite understand the concept of Christian submission.  Just as it doesn’t mean “do what you want anyway” it also doesn’t mean “obey whatever anyone tells you.”  It means that when you, as a Christian, are considering your actions, you submit to the wider Christian community.



By Rolling Eyes on June 14, 2007 at 10:38 am [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop Michael Ingham addresses Executive Council

We should stop being so critical, lest some reappraiser starts posting on this thread and calls us all “bigots”!



By Rolling Eyes on June 14, 2007 at 10:37 am [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop Michael Ingham addresses Executive Council

“The Executive Council is listening to a Nigerian gay rights activist and a Canadian bishop who is also a gay rights activist.”

Ah, yes…truly a “conversation”.



By plainsheretic on June 14, 2007 at 10:37 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

Steveatmi5,
The convesation earlier was about three blogs and there influence, and some about ACI’s work.

In my comment above, i would say the same for the reappraising blogs. They are read by a few in comparison to the total number of members. They share in readership and thier influence is not as much as one might assume. If anything the reappriaser and reasserter blogs only is amplify- I don’t think they influence.

Take the Dar meeting. While the various blogs reported information- the real influence was within the meetings and those close to the primates. The blogs are at most reporting devices.  And, as I said before the give a vioce to people who would not have it otherwise.



By AnglicanFirst on June 14, 2007 at 10:35 am [comment link]
From the entry: One View of Life in the Diocese of Newark These Days

“Less than two years later, the Diocese closed two mostly black High Church parishes.”

My, my, how “inclusive.”

Could there have been ‘orthodox’ parishoners in those black churches?



By AnglicanFirst on June 14, 2007 at 10:30 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Response to #18.
Yes, I have read of the thoery of abiotic oil production deep within the earth.

But, so what.  If we don’t investigate the domestic availabilty of that source of oil within our own borders, then we will still dependent upon oil beneath the ground in some other country.

Investigating that theory and devising an effective means of accessing and extracting “abiotic oil” will require a huge front-end investment of money and time.  Private industry won’t do that because, first its a lot of money with no sure payoff and second the pay back on investment will be too slow.  However if we wait for the crisis caused by a shortage, then prices will rise and the ‘economics’ will be attractive and private industry will respond.

By that time, there may be wide spread world tension and conflict over a large-scale shortage of oil.

Normally, I prefer that free-market forces stimulate necessary investments, but in the case of oil and oil substitutes the stakes are just too high.

Therefore, our Congress had better start worrying about our country’s future and stop worrying about the two, four and six year election cycles.



By rugbyplayingpriest on June 14, 2007 at 10:28 am [comment link]
From the entry: From AP: Sony in talks with Church of England

Truth is that Sony are in very hot water over this back in Japan, where desecration of temples is a grave offense. This has led to a threat of action by shareholders. So who knows where this will run.



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 10:27 am [comment link]
From the entry: DeWayne Wickham: Do positions on evolution really matter in 2008 race?

My dear Matt, politicians don’t give me my rights, God does. Those which He gives never can be taken away. You have completely missed the point, which had nothing to do with spreading the Gospel message; which leads me to believe that you have a blind spot. I leave you to it.
T



By steveatmi5 on June 14, 2007 at 10:26 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

Plainsperson, while you are to be commended for reading viewpoints you diagree with, I would not give you high marks for your listening to them closely or understanding them very well.  There are significant differences in the blogs you mention.  Also, the reason Virtue online is not mentioned is because that is in a different category altogether, with its blatant inaccuracies and unhelpful rhetoric, etc. Your choice of verb there is apt—“boasts” indeed.  It is a huge turn off and embarrassment to many of us.

If you read the reappraising blogs, one of the things by which one is struck is the large lack of awareness of what occurs among reasserting Anglicans. Blogs are a lot more influential than you think.  A VERY large number of leading anglicans and/or their offices, for example, monitor places like T19.



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 10:20 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Though I have yet to read it, a publication was recently referred to me,  “Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil,” by Jerome R. Corsi and Craig R. Smith. We might want to look into it. After all, science and politics have led us off-course before, whose to say they haven’t again?
T



By Steven in Falls Church on June 14, 2007 at 10:15 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Barry—That article presumes abiogenesis of petroleum, that is, petroleum deposits were formed in the Earth’s interior from creation and were not the result of the organic breakdown of plant and animal matter (biogenesis).  The weight of evidence supports oil as a fossil fuel, that is, it was formed through biotic, not abiotic, processes.



By hrsn on June 14, 2007 at 10:07 am [comment link]
From the entry: Carolyn J Sharp Responds to the Proposed Anglican Draft Covenant

Phil, In haste, as I’m heading out of town…
The whole issue comes to this: “scripture, tradition, and reason - with Scripture being the primary base.” I put more weight on reason than you do, which is to say that I test the incontestable scriptural condemnations of same-sex relationships under rational scrutiny, and I’ve found the condemnations more wobbly than firm. As a lurker, I’ve come to know where you stand on the matter of scriptural authority, so we needn’t push this farther. As Carolyn Sharp herself wrote: “It is clear that disagreements over how to read Scripture lie at the heart of our current disputes.” That we can agree on, yes?

And for another time, perhaps by private email, I’d provide you with my scripturally-based case for at least a theological indifference to sexual orientation.



By plainsheretic on June 14, 2007 at 10:06 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

Greg,

While your comments are directed at one person, they are public so I will respond.

I don’t think there would have been much diffrence without the blogs you mentioned. The issues are fundemental, and I beleive the Primates, which is where most of the conversation/ decisions are made, would have gone down the same road. While a number of people read these three blogs, most who comment are inline with the editors view points, and I beleive evidence would show a large carry over between the three blogs readership.

I think the coverage on CNN, FOX, and other news networks and in the papers contributed more to the highlighting of the issue than anything else. Also individual rectors, bishops, and intrested lay people. The Blogs only offer one small vioce and maybe amplify, some voices, but few people really read them.

You didn’t mention Virtueonline, who has been around the longest. He bost “millions” of readers. Probably more like a few thousand who repeat visit each day.

I wouldn’t get too grandious about the blogs influence. Do people read them, yes! But most of it is repeat traffic by a realtivily small number of folks in comparison to the total membership of the Episcopal Church. Even if say 10,000 individuals read the blogs, it is still a very small portion of the church.

One thing about blogs though, it does give rise to people who would not have been voices in the conversations otherwise.



By Barry on June 14, 2007 at 9:50 am [comment link]
From the entry: A statement from Archbishop Peter J. Akinola on the Province of Kenya Announcement

plainsparson,

Of the 39 Articles of Religion, I believe that TEC is not complying with:
XVIII, XX, XXI, XXXI, XXXII, XXXIII, XXXIV, XXXVI.
Which Articles do you think Nigeria is not in compliance with?
Peace.



By Ross on June 14, 2007 at 9:40 am [comment link]
From the entry: From AP: Sony in talks with Church of England

Sony in talks with Church of England

In the moment or two it took me to recall the context, this was a very odd headline indeed.



By CRUX SANCTI PATRIS BENEDICTI on June 14, 2007 at 9:35 am [comment link]
From the entry: From AP: Sony in talks with Church of England

“This is a sensitive topic,” Kato said. “Many historical buildings are used in entertainment such as movies, including Godzilla and the Tokyo Tower and King Kong in Manhattan.”

Yes —but for some reason not mosques



By Barry on June 14, 2007 at 9:31 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/Energy.html

Oil running out?  Read this article!



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 9:29 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Steven in Falls Church, thank you for that CERA article ... so, science isn’t God after all!
T



By plainsheretic on June 14, 2007 at 9:28 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

The good thing about running out of oil is that it will probably help solve a good deal of the health crisis. People will start walking more, there will be less food available, and fertilizers/ pesticides will become to expensive for farmers. We will all lose wieght. Couldn’t hurt….



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 9:26 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

PS - We were also warned of an impending ice age when I was young ... fancy that.
T



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 9:24 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Peter dH,
You wrote, “Need we be worried? Heck, yes.” Interesting use of words here, for a Christian. Remember the lilies of the field? They neither toil nor spin ... uh, what was Jesus’ message there? So, I’m picking nits, but I do believe the word   “concerned” might be more appropriate; it’s more inducive to action. Yes, we should be good stewards of all that He created. We all know what we can do individually, e.g. cut back on our personal usage; what do you suggest we do collectively?
Mathman, I too remember the predictions of oil depletion early on, and, of course, the “oil shortage problem” resulting in closed gas stations and endless lines at others. The message is currently being given in universities across the nation, as I have personally observed ... we are past our peak and will run out very soon!!!! Wring your hands and quickly purchase a hybrid automobile!
T



By Stuart Smith on June 14, 2007 at 9:22 am [comment link]
From the entry: Newark Diocese Addresses Executive Council, Moves Forward on Same-Sex Blessing

#25: I believe the origin of “sodomy” is not the “ick factor” as you assert…it is biblical:  the sin of sexual licentiousness present at the city of Sodom.
Homosexual acts are contra-nature.  The Lord built our bodies so obviously for sexual communion between male and female, that even the acts of homosexuals mimic it…with one “male” actor and one “female” actor involved those acts.
More significantly, the distortion of affection between men and men, women and women involved in homosexuality testifies to the presence of Sin’s power to corrupt God’s creation.  Of course, so does gossip, slander, theft, dishonesty, adultery, etc.  Whenever Scripture speaks of sexual sins it is usually in the context of the longer list of sinfulness having nothing to do with sexuality per se’.
So, of course, the church errs when it obsesses over one particular expression of unfaithfulness and sin.
But, never should the church be cowed into calling sin either an inborn fait accompli or a holy choice!



By Hursley on June 14, 2007 at 9:21 am [comment link]
From the entry: Newark Diocese Addresses Executive Council, Moves Forward on Same-Sex Blessing

Well Fr. (#25), I can’t quite follow the argument here. The reason genital contact is at issue for homosexual relationships in this context is that those who propose the blessing of these relationships are explicit that the genital contact part of it is being blessed as well. If the genital contact part were dropped from what is being held up before God, most objection would drop out as well. Actual marriage is not “reduced” to genital contact in most arguments I know of…rather, it is in part based on it. It is one of the key understandings of many of us (this writer included) that the sacramental sign of the union of man and woman in marriage is not only the joining of hands in the liturgy, but of bodies in marriage-bed. The capacity for generativity in basic biological terms (male/female) is a sign of God’s blessing on the Created Order. This also shows forth the common basis of human being between man and woman as told us in Genesis, and as referenced by Our Lord in the Gospel. It isn’t about genital contact itself but about restoration of union in the only true “difference” between humans. This is not a reduction but a foundation, I think. This is why the matter of sex (gender) is so central to many of us.



By Steven in Falls Church on June 14, 2007 at 9:20 am [comment link]
From the entry: World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

Here is a countervailing viewpoint from CERA, which is headed by Daniel Yergin, author of The Prize.



By msmcdoc on June 14, 2007 at 9:13 am [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop Jack Iker on the March Meeting of the American House of Bishops

infopro,
If you would like to read more about the gay agenda or to just see that it is real I would direct you to this book.
I am still on the fence concerning the blessing of gay relationships but am by no means what is referred to as homophobic. God has not given me permission to be the judge of anyone. But…
That still does not negate the idea that there is a planned, organized, well funded movement towards full acceptance of homosexuality as a normal and natural way of being. “I” would call that an agenda.

“After the Ball - How America will conquer its fear and hatred of Gays in the 90s.” - Penguin Books, 1989
by Marshall K. Kirk and Hunter Madsen



By Stuart Smith on June 14, 2007 at 9:08 am [comment link]
From the entry: From ENS: Executive Council set to discuss communiqué, Anglican covenant responses

The TEC and the Primates are clearly talking on different levels.
The Primates are saying, “Give us evidence that you are repenting of what was an unfaithful, communion-breaking action in GC2003!”
The TEC Exec. Council is saying, “We want to stay in the AC, but we reserve the right to believe and practice whatever we believe is prophetic and true for us in our context”.

Since TEC has said “no, we will not repent”, the Primates will be justified in considering TEC to be outside the Faith and recognize and encourage the development of a new representative of Anglican polity that is accountable to the AC



By Cennydd on June 14, 2007 at 9:07 am [comment link]
From the entry: From Fulcrum: Graham Kings on Lambeth Invitations and Rowan Williams

#2   RobRoy:  Are you sure?  It looks to me like the reappraiser bishops of TEC are prepared to take the Church off on its own course and form an “Episcopal Communion,” and with its presence in 14 overseas jurisdictions, it’s a possibility.



By Greg Griffith on June 14, 2007 at 9:07 am [comment link]
From the entry: Network welcomes Kenya’s decision to care for U.S. Anglicans

The difference is that ACI is actually involved in hard work with Primates, CA Bishops, chairing meetings and holding conferences, etc. Matt Kennedy is not doing that, nor should he, I suppose. He is a parish priest with (an amazing amount of) time to run a blog.

Dr. Seitz,

You have been increasingly shrill about the role of blogs and bloggers lately, and I can’t help but notice that it’s coincided with the ACI’s “inside strategy” finding itself on the ropes.

The ACI began with an idea, and has pursued it with varying degrees of success. Stand Firm began with a different idea, and has pursued it with varying degrees of success. We do different things, and to belittle blogs because they don’t chair meetings and hold conferences is to misunderstand thoroughly the roles of both your organization and ours.

Lately you have spent an extraordinary amount of time posting to blogs whose value you question at best, and dismiss with contempt at worst. That alone should settle the question (for you, anyway) of just how valuable the blogs are; but if it doesn’t, just ask yourself this the next time you wonder how much power the blogs wield: How different would the last 3 and half years have been in this debate, without TitusOneNine, Stand Firm, and CaNN?



By Cabbages on June 14, 2007 at 9:03 am [comment link]
From the entry: From The Economist: New model police

As an explanation on how to explain why crime rates have been creeping up in the last few years, I offer for consideration the following:
INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
2006 (First Quarter)

95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens. 
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens. 
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border. 
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes”. 
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens. 
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.



By Hursley on June 14, 2007 at 8:50 am [comment link]
From the entry: Bishop Michael Ingham addresses Executive Council

How utterly tiresome; a group claiming to represent the whole Church is given to the most partisan, ideological, and lop-sided testimony. My experience looking in on EC proceedings suggests that they are an almost completely isolated batch of folks…more akin to Cold Warriors than leaders equipped for the task at hand.



By Tikvah on June 14, 2007 at 8:48 am [comment link]
From the entry: DeWayne Wickham: Do positions on evolution really matter in 2008 race?

Matt,
There was a time in this nation that no one was uncomfortable with the Big Ten, or having prayers at commencement, etc. Manger scenes on the Commons were expected and they upset no one. Perhaps you are too young to have experienced that freedom. I would ask you to consider who/what is driving the removal of these things, and more, from the public square, and why. Perhaps the “inclusive” button should be pushed in more than one area of life.
Shalom,
Tikvah


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